Culture groups and union nations or where is my Arabia

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Arabia will be formable as a culture union in 1.8.

Oh hell yes, best news of the week! :D

There's already a decision to "unify Islam" which is described as being "the caliphate."

Moreover it doesn't make sense to form "the caliphate" in this time period because there was a relatively well-recognized caliph during the entire period.

By the time you achive the prerequirements of the unify Islam, it's already game over for Ottomans...
 

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Instead of Yugoslavia we could have a "great Serbia" which requires all Serbian and Croatian provinces to be owned and orthodox

No, sorry, just no. There are not many of us here from ex-yugoslav lands, but anyone outside Serbia would want to stone you for that suggestion. Well, most of. I wouldn't.

'Great Serbia' as an idea, although probably thought of before, was really formed after the time-frame and was genocidal, as far as I know. I can't be a 100% sure because my history books are bound to be biased against such an idea. However, I also would not support 'Great Croatia' or sth like that, because it *might* have been as bad as 'Great Serbia'(we can never know).

I am OK with Yugoslavia or Illyria, but both are outside the timeframe. Still, it would give something to strive for for players who'd play in that area.
 

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Instead of Yugoslavia we could have a "great Serbia" which requires all Serbian and Croatian provinces to be owned and orthodox

Sorry but this sounds pretty selfish..
We have many Bosnians, Croats, Macedonians etc. in this community..
Beside this we have already a Serbia man...
 

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No, sorry, just no. There are not many of us here from ex-yugoslav lands, but anyone outside Serbia would want to stone you for that suggestion. Well, most of. I wouldn't.

'Great Serbia' as an idea, although probably thought of before, was really formed after the time-frame and was genocidal, as far as I know. I can't be a 100% sure because my history books are bound to be biased against such an idea. However, I also would not support 'Great Croatia' or sth like that, because it *might* have been as bad as 'Great Serbia'(we can never know).

I am OK with Yugoslavia or Illyria, but both are outside the timeframe. Still, it would give something to strive for for players who'd play in that area.

Yeah you're right Great Serbia ain't a good name. Maybe instead of making a union state there could be bonuses due to similarities? Like lower tolerance threshold and something
 

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Yeah you're right Great Serbia ain't a good name. Maybe instead of making a union state there could be bonuses due to similarities? Like lower tolerance threshold and something

I'd really like certain formable countries to have a different name based on whole makes them. For example, instead of Great Britain, it's Grand Scotland or Glorious Ireland! (okay, that's dumb). In the current example, you could make a Great <Balkans Country> which would make a cultural union. I think it would be a neat extension of the colonial tags having changeable names.
 

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Can we get some more benefits to forming nations? Apart from roleplaying, they are useless. A few suggestions:

-Give a bonus to "offer vassalization" attempts to other states within the same culture group, or de jure territory.
-Core would be nice.. or at least a nice CB with minimal AE.
-Prestige, stability, legitimacy, etc
 

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By the time you achive the prerequirements of the unify Islam, it's already game over for Ottomans...

Which reminds me, maybe defender of the fate could be the caliph, or something like that?
 

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Can we get some more benefits to forming nations? Apart from roleplaying, they are useless. A few suggestions:

-Give a bonus to "offer vassalization" attempts to other states within the same culture group, or de jure territory.
-Core would be nice.. or at least a nice CB with minimal AE.
-Prestige, stability, legitimacy, etc

I still find it funny how Germany can exist within the HRE without anyone batting an eye.
 

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Arabia will be formable as a culture union in 1.8.

Since we have you here and we are talking about culture groups/unions : care to elaborate on why Pomeranian culture is in the German group and not in the West Slavic one along with Poland /Bohemia ? Any plans on fixing it or have you guys not even noticed how wrong this is?
 

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Since we have you here and we are talking about culture groups/unions : care to elaborate on why Pomeranian culture is in the German group and not in the West Slavic one along with Poland /Bohemia ? Any plans on fixing it or have you guys not even noticed how wrong this is?

Pomerania was germanised already. Same reason Prussian isn't in the Baltic group.
 

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Pomerania was germanised already. Same reason Prussian isn't in the Baltic group.

Whatever you choose to believe culture represents in EUIV your statement is far from the truth.Are you arguing that the Griffins were Germans or that the population was germanised ? Cause frankly i don't know which of the two is more insane.Anyway i can see the *corridor area* is touching some nerves and this can easily devolve into nationalist nonsense.
 

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Since we have you here and we are talking about culture groups/unions : care to elaborate on why Pomeranian culture is in the German group and not in the West Slavic one along with Poland /Bohemia ? Any plans on fixing it or have you guys not even noticed how wrong this is?

I personally don't care either way, but after checking Wikipedia's article on the Ostsiedlung, it appears to me that Closet Skeleton is right that it was germanised already. Basically the article claims that germanisation of Pomerania started around 1170 and the Slavic population was mostly assimilated by the start of the 15th century, well before the start of the game. Do you disagree with those dates, and if so, based on what?