culture diffrence feels too weak

[makaramus]

I mean yea lower tax manpower etc... is sad but... you dont mind it too much after some point :/
I mean why those people sitting there being ok with your rule so easily without humanist ideas? there should be events that forcefully converting culture in random province to 1 of your accepted bordering culture(your culture group/main culture priotized) or events that causing massive rebellions on a random picked culture (rebellion size depends on size of culture)

I think this is why big countries doing even better currently... because diffrent culture means too little.

this is what ottoman empire hold back after sometime
this is what freed dutch from other powers
this is what freed india
This is why empires shaken!

 

[Jorlaan]

Mod it so that unaccepted culture gives more unrest and see how it goes. I imagine more rebellions. Maybe increase separatism too, 15 years is pretty short. Even hundreds of years after conquest many in game culture groups still wanted freedom.

 

[makaramus]

Mod it so that unaccepted culture gives more unrest and see how it goes. I imagine more rebellions. Maybe increase separatism too, 15 years is pretty short. Even hundreds of years after conquest many in game culture groups still wanted freedom.

I didnt mean unrest... unrest can be handled by many things
There should be events that incrasing unrest by burst (-20? -30?) for a moment (3 years?) of a specific culture group(althought this is rare one)
there should be events that automaticly relasing a country as free state and making you dow them if you desire (this will be a special casus belli reducing agresive expansion by %90 since they are considered your lands allready.) and yes this means half of austria may decide to pop up in your ottoman empire to resist you .

but also positive events that will make things easier for you too! Offering a culture switch on a province for military points(you can guess how things gonna happen) or extra admin point for refusing, forcefully taxing diffrent cultures but incrasing unrest for very long time doing so.

note:This events will be disappear if you got %100 humanist ideas

newly conquered lands are ok... rebellions happens enought allready like that... if you incrase them small countries wont control them

currently seperatism hurt duchies not empires

what I say is an empire must say "shit" when a culture you didnt accept rebel... not "whatever" and rush with doomstack on them :/

 

[alexti]

Perhaps pops of non-accepted culture should be emigrating to the nations where their culture is primary or at least accepted.

In the absence of pop system it can be emulated by events that reduce development in the province of non-accepted culture and equally increase development in a random province of matching culture and belonging to the nation where that culture is primary or accepted.

 

[Palatinus Germanicus]

There actually are events that raise # of years of separatism. I got one recently as Prussia. +5 years of separatism for a Polish province.

IMO, things should/could potentially spiral down & out of control if you have an incompetent ruler. As long as a 4-6-5 is ruling, sure, no problem. Then his inbred, retarded cousin takes over, and next thing you know all of Poland is thinking about independence, even though they were conquered 100+ years ago.

Having a really bad ruler should give you pulse events like being over 100% OE. Not just stab hits, but potentially empire breaking-up events. As is, you don't really see multi-cultured empires breaking up that often (unless they're a horde... or Ming). But it should be possible under horrible leadership.

It's a slippery slope, though. Go play CK2, and see if you think this type of stuff is 'fun'. Never a dull moment... sure. But one heck of an ongoing hassle. You'll be yearning for the old days when your EU4 empire would just 'stay conquered', and 'be stable'.

 

[makaramus]

There actually are events that raise # of years of separatism. I got one recently as Prussia. +5 years of separatism for a Polish province.

IMO, things should/could potentially spiral down & out of control if you have an incompetent ruler. As long as a 4-6-5 is ruling, sure, no problem. Then his inbred, retarded cousin takes over, and next thing you know all of Poland is thinking about independence, even though they were conquered 100+ years ago.

Having a really bad ruler should give you pulse events like being over 100% OE. Not just stab hits, but potentially empire breaking-up events. As is, you don't really see multi-cultured empires breaking up that often (unless they're a horde... or Ming). But it should be possible under horrible leadership.

It's a slippery slope, though. Go play CK2, and see if you think this type of stuff is 'fun'. Never a dull moment... sure. But one heck of an ongoing hassle. You'll be yearning for the old days when your EU4 empire would just 'stay conquered', and 'be stable'.

thats why I didnt advice this? Ruler stats gonna be nothing unless he is "cruel" (if cruel... oh boy... real shit begins )

 

[durbal]

There actually are events that raise # of years of separatism. I got one recently as Prussia. +5 years of separatism for a Polish province.

IMO, things should/could potentially spiral down & out of control if you have an incompetent ruler. As long as a 4-6-5 is ruling, sure, no problem. Then his inbred, retarded cousin takes over, and next thing you know all of Poland is thinking about independence, even though they were conquered 100+ years ago.

Having a really bad ruler should give you pulse events like being over 100% OE. Not just stab hits, but potentially empire breaking-up events. As is, you don't really see multi-cultured empires breaking up that often (unless they're a horde... or Ming). But it should be possible under horrible leadership.

It's a slippery slope, though. Go play CK2, and see if you think this type of stuff is 'fun'. Never a dull moment... sure. But one heck of an ongoing hassle. You'll be yearning for the old days when your EU4 empire would just 'stay conquered', and 'be stable'.

Legitimacy plays a role in unrest.

 

[makaramus]

Legitimacy plays a role in unrest.

I think he meant to say "a mad king"
I mean low legimicy king can be 6/6/6 but he will still got 10 legimicy .
yet 0/0/1 can be 100 legimicy with personality giving even more legimicy but he will be still a 0/0/1 mad king

 

[durbal]

I think he meant to say "a mad king"
I mean low legimicy king can be 6/6/6 but he will still got 10 legimicy .
yet 0/0/1 can be 100 legimicy with personality giving even more legimicy but he will be still a 0/0/1 mad king

So unrest is represented then by ruler traits and the fact that with low monarch power you'll just naturally have a harder time with rebellions (less MP for harsh treatment, culture conversion/acceptance, etc.)

 

[makaramus]

So unrest is represented then by ruler traits and the fact that with low monarch power you'll just naturally have a harder time with rebellions (less MP for harsh treatment, culture conversion/acceptance, etc.)

yea I didnt support it too just explained all I want events related to unaccepted cultures