Cultural Union war Goal

[panther-anthro]

Cultural Union war Goal
^ name of war goal may be wrong


Okay how is this one different then claim cores? because when I used this against mexico, I could only do it in territories I had cores of and they didn't even have yankees or dixie or anything.

This raises a further question, shouldn't this be the war goal you can use to retake things like northern maine from UK? -why is there no core for USA there by the way?-

 

[unmerged(131989)]

If I understand the CBs you are referring to correctly, then one is for states which have provinces with your union tag POPs in, and the other is for acquiring states where you have cores. Are you sure there were no Yankees/Dixies/Texans at all in those states?

 

[unmerged(75409)]

It's the same as the "Acquire core" war goal. But it gives you a sh*tload of infamy, while "acquire core" does not. So don't use it if you have cores on the provinces!!

 

[Minchandre]

Doesn't culture union also allow full annexation?

 

[unmerged(75409)]

Doesn't culture union also allow full annexation?

Might be but if you have cores all over them you can also use "Restore order". Not sure whether is better.

 

[Darkrenown]

It's the same as the "Acquire core" war goal. But it gives you a sh*tload of infamy, while "acquire core" does not. So don't use it if you have cores on the provinces!!

No, Unification gives no infamy. If you're seeing it give infamy it's because you have a truce and breaking a truce adds lots of infamy to wargoals.

To clear up a few things, Cultural Union war Goal (Real name is War of Unification) is used to claim cores of your cultural union from nations of another culture. Now as the USA is already the Union tag for american culture the unions cores are exactly the same as the USA's cores, so there's not much point using it as the USA (probably shouldn't even be offered to them). However, if you are, say, Prussia you won't have cores on Schleswig-Holstien, but Germany does, so you can use this CB to take the state from Denmark.

 

[eleinvisible]

This raises a further question, shouldn't this be the war goal you can use to retake things like northern maine from UK? -why is there no core for USA there by the way?-

In 1838, the US was involved in a skirmish which was called the Aroostook War, which was just a few lumberjacks fighting each other. In 1842 the USA and the UK signed the Webster-Ashburton Treaty which game northern Maine to the US. I think this is best represented as an event or a decision, but it is conspicuously absent. VIP2 should have it

 

[panther-anthro]

I think vanilla needs to be ableto get full Maine for USA peacefully though.

 

[Alerias]

I think vanilla needs to be ableto get full Maine for USA peacefully though.

Sure, but only if Canada can get the bottom half peacefully too

 

[unmerged(196105)]

War goals are moddable (like events or decisions etc.)? It's possible to add completely new kind of war goal?

 

[unmerged(75409)]

No, Unification gives no infamy. If you're seeing it give infamy it's because you have a truce and breaking a truce adds lots of infamy to wargoals.

To clear up a few things, Cultural Union war Goal (Real name is War of Unification) is used to claim cores of your cultural union from nations of another culture. Now as the USA is already the Union tag for american culture the unions cores are exactly the same as the USA's cores, so there's not much point using it as the USA (probably shouldn't even be offered to them). However, if you are, say, Prussia you won't have cores on Schleswig-Holstien, but Germany does, so you can use this CB to take the state from Denmark.

I don't think I had a truce, I did the comparison by selecting both choices prior to declaring war. Acquire core, with Texas selected, showed I would get 0 infamy upon DOW. Unification, with Texas selected as first claimed state, showed I would get something like 7 or 10 infamy upon DOW.

 

[safferli]

War goals are moddable (like events or decisions etc.)? It's possible to add completely new kind of war goal?

Yes, I believe so.

 

[Brownbeard]

Sacrifice kittens war goal.

 

[panther-anthro]

Sure, but only if Canada can get the bottom half peacefully too

I have this strange feeling your Canadian. To be fair, I don't mind bashing the UK's head in as USA if UK is really as weak as it is in the demo compared to USA in full vicky 2. I think UK would have to fight for it, but that's just me.

 

[gibbel]

I don't think I had a truce, I did the comparison by selecting both choices prior to declaring war. Acquire core, with Texas selected, showed I would get 0 infamy upon DOW. Unification, with Texas selected as first claimed state, showed I would get something like 7 or 10 infamy upon DOW.

Maybe that's because Texas has one culture that's part of your union as state culture. The way I understood it was that this wargoal is supposed to be used against countries that don't have one of the union cultures as state culture.

 

[unmerged(75409)]

Maybe that's because Texas has one culture that's part of your union as state culture. The way I understood it was that this wargoal is supposed to be used against countries that don't have one of the union cultures as state culture.

I was checking DOW effects against Mexico, not Texas

 

[podcat]

Sacrifice kittens war goal.

they are very much moddable. check the cb_types.txt file under common directory.

no custom peace options (effects of them, like annex, take province etc) however so removing a countries kittens would be hard we have been toying with the idea of having a possible scriptable effect as well as a peace option, but its tricky for the ai to understand and evaluate them, so then we would need a scripable evaluation system as well etc. however, you can do a lot with the current system.

 

[Evans]

In 1838, the US was involved in a skirmish which was called the Aroostook War, which was just a few lumberjacks fighting each other. In 1842 the USA and the UK signed the Webster-Ashburton Treaty which game northern Maine to the US. I think this is best represented as an event or a decision, but it is conspicuously absent. VIP2 should have it

Totally agree, they also need a way to settle the British Columbia / Washington situation - imho treating them like colonies isn't necessarily the best way to do it. A gradual process of adding territories and states to the Union by decisions (with linked slavery choice events) like VIP would be pretty cool too.