CtD when exiting to Main Menu
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To clarify, crashing on resetting gamestate was a rare bug that occured with a small number of players, and they apparently decided to fix it by making the game exit and restart instead of trying to reset the gamestate.
I mean, it's not like you didn't have to do that manually anyway to get a good checksum, but it's just so... ugly a fix.
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A splash screen saying "reloading the game" or something would be nice instead of the CTD (like a secondary exectuable that acts as an ancor/hull for the actual game)
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Its not a crash, its a complete reset of databases, instead of the former partial ones that always created bugs.
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Yes, I'd recommend managing your annoyance, because the benefits of this change are far more in your favor than perhaps you're letting yourself perceive.
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Johan, think you could do what was suggested by this post?:
As it is right now it looks very much like a CTD, which is causing a lot of confusion. Also it looks a little bad aesthetically to just exit and restart.
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What are those "benefits"? I hope you are not talking about Multiplayer.
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After playing the game or even viewing the map/selecting countries/changing the date etc and exiting back to the menu, you could get weird... things happening. little bits of stuff that didn't get properly reset.
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This confused me as well. instead of Exit to Main Menu, write Restart Game. It is what actually happens, and makes everything a lot clearer.
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Maybe not every time, but 7 out of 10 would be pretty accurate for me. And given that the game boots up faster I'm kinda ok with it. I'd prefer not to restart the game when I exit single player screen tho...
I am talking about multiplayer. As well as loading saves, and general things such as that.
You may not like multiplayer, but it's an important aspect of the game for many people. So perhaps the change is not massively beneficial to you, though Paradox needs to consider the needs of all its users. Would you not consider something beneficial that helps a lot of people, if not necessarily yourself?
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A lot of people? I am sorry but last I read was that the majority does not play multiplayer but singleplayer.
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Mine has been crashing to desktop for ages, it mostly happens when I go back to main menu or load up a save mid-game.
Sorry to hear that.
Well on my Macs EU IV has never crashed to desktop before 1.14. Now PDX decided to force this CTD on to everyone to "fix" multiplayer issues with the checksum, even though the majority plays singleplayer.
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It was not a change made for multiplayer, you had to restart your game already (even before they made the multiplayer button greyed out).
I cant speak with absolute certainty since I am not a dev, but the impression I get from the Paradox posts on the subject was that they found the gamestate not resetting completely was the cause of a whole host of (singleplayer) bugs. By making the game restart completely, they solve a large number of them and make the game a lot more stable. A relatively minor sacrifice to avoid game destroying issues in my opinion.
Sure, they could have found a different way to fix it, but I imagine that if it was easy to do they would have.
I cant speak with absolute certainty since I am not a dev, but the impression I get from the Paradox posts on the subject was that they found the gamestate not resetting completely was the cause of a whole host of (singleplayer) bugs. By making the game restart completely, they solve a large number of them and make the game a lot more stable. A relatively minor sacrifice to avoid game destroying issues in my opinion.
Sure, they could have found a different way to fix it, but I imagine that if it was easy to do they would have.
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I like it a lot - EU4 runs smoother after restarts, never mind the bug avoidance, altho it feels like 1.14 made game more sluggish for me overall.
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Rare bug?
No. I have >10 steam friends that play this game, and maybe two of them didn't have this happen (they haven't said one way or another). Maybe I just happened to steam-friend people who make up some tiny percentage of the players who get it, but that's not likely. All it took was playing through 20-30 years then attempting to exit to menu or reload.
As for myself, I had it crash on two Linux OS, and on Windows 7. On two different machines with entirely different hardware at that.
I think a major benefit of this is bug reports are more reliable. It reduces the amount of reports that are made from thing that only occur when players are at the wrong checksum.
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Stuff in databases not being cleared correctly, causing AI misbehaviour, crashes etc.
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