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I think it's a pretty safe bet that the confederates will have a country tag in Victoria.
Is there a scenario or is it like you play as USA until 1860, when you choose to lead CSA?
I think it safe to say both of those options will be available. Either start as US in the Grand Campaign or play as CSA in the ACW scenario.
Hopefully we'll get both and if not I'd give the mod community a month or so and you'll get one.
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Originally posted by Patric
You can start as CSA in one of the scenarios...
Patric,
what is the start date of the CSA scenario? This is very important to know if the the war has started yet.
The starting war conditions of the war depend much on both Davis and Lincolns policy.
Why not starting the scenario with Lincolns victory? So starting the secession of deep South states.
I think it should be possible to play CSA in CG as well. In 1835 you choose to play USA and in spring 1861 CSA secedes. In that situation the player should have a chance to select if he wants to play as Union or Confederation. I think that would be cool and the US customers would like that very much.
If Victoria is like EU2 or HOI you don't need any additional feature to do that. When the CSA appears you just save the GC, and then start the civil war scenario as CSA and load the saved game...and now you are CSA in the GC you were playing before.
(actually this is how it worked even in EU, I think in EU2 and HOI you could just simply change the shield/flag when loading the saved game without any extra hassle)
Cheers, H.
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I am aware of that. I think it would be easier and nicer to do by events than editing savefiles or using other tricks. I wonder what would happend if CSA wins the civilwar? This is a way to test it.
well it's not that easy about the start date. The start of secession was a long process and culminating with Lincolns election.
Suppose (by events or whatever) that the Democrats win the election and the polarisation is kept up for a few more years, the civil war wil start later on.
Suppose (by events or whatever) that the Democrats win the election and the polarisation is kept up for a few more years, the civil war wil start later on.
Or, the corrolary, would be John C. Fremont's victory in the election of 1856 (Historically, his opposition Buchanen carried every slave state, Pennsylvania, Illinois, and Indiana, making it 174 to 114 electoral votes, but the popular vote was 1,838,000 Buchanen, 1,340,000 Fremont, which is fairly dangerous considering Fremont only received 1200 popular votes in the South.) or a Free-Born party victory in 1852 leading to the South seceeding early.
actually it is quite easy for a start date. it has to be, must be, the firing of Fort Sumter. any date ealier would make it that the succession was just an ideal, but not an actual event. if the scenario were to start before the fomation of the confederacy (by this i mean a split in the american army) then it wouldnt make much sense because the nation was divided but not split.
true, but the main fact remains that the starting of the secession crisis was not the assault on fort Sumter, but the election of Lincoln. In fact both parties were that much polarised that a republican abolitionist victory would mean the eruption of a war. Also because many Northern politicians were fed up with the constant Southern threats of secession, "it's nothing but bluff".
So the question will be how Paradox will modell this, there's a total serie of events that will have to handle the secession movement. From the assault of John Brown to the assault on Fort Sumter. A very important here is to notice that the commanding officer of Fort Sumter was about to surrender when the confederals attacked the Fort.
The war was the result of a longer process, so I would love to have 2 ways of playing the ACW. Either the classic scenario with the assault on Fort Sumter and another scenario where you can play after Lincoln is victorious AND you have still a few months to manage your goverment...and in that case I would never assault Fort Sumter but simply wait until the other border states join the confederacy...
And still another event is Lincolns political reform after the Antietam victory binding the remaining slave states to the Union without loosing them. It would have been impossible to give the slave rights with a possible confederate victory at hand!
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sorry, I'm going to bump this up,
because there seems to be a lot of fuss about "extermination" in the game... I wanted to be polite and wait for an answer,
nothing wrong with that imho - well perhaps not when the question is directed to Paradox...
waiting with patience...
my question = will the csa scenario start with the war on or with the secession of the first southern states?
because there seems to be a lot of fuss about "extermination" in the game... I wanted to be polite and wait for an answer,
nothing wrong with that imho - well perhaps not when the question is directed to Paradox...
waiting with patience...
my question = will the csa scenario start with the war on or with the secession of the first southern states?
WHooho! thats the first senario I'm gonna play!! Ohh Man whens the American version gonna be out?
Check the FAQ forum - it's aimed to be released before christmas. Also check with the North American publisher, Strategy First.