Crusades

[NorwegianGamer]

Currently, if the Pope calls for a crusade, there is no crusade CB that is automatically given to catholic nations.

The only way you can get the crusade bonuses is either if you're already at war with the nation, or if you find some other CB to justify your war.

So I suggest that there is a "Crusade" CB given to Catholic nations when a crusade is called.

 

[magnusvejby]

I think neighbouring gets an holy war CB, im not 100% sure tho.

But yes i don't know why, nations like Castille, France or England not gets a CB against the crusade target. I argee. +1

 

[NorwegianGamer]

Yeah, I'm not too sure if neighbouring countries get a CB or not. I'll check that out when I get time.

Still though, all catholic nations should receive a CB against the target of the crusade.

 

[Zelius]

Noooo too many wars would be declared at once...

You'd then need a CB for heathens to defend the crusade target etc, else they'll get roflstomped for sure.

In short, what you want is CKII crusades...

 

[Sharp163]

Currently, if the Pope calls for a crusade, there is no crusade CB that is automatically given to catholic nations.

The only way you can get the crusade bonuses is either if you're already at war with the nation, or if you find some other CB to justify your war.

So I suggest that there is a "Crusade" CB given to Catholic nations when a crusade is called.

A great idea! My only suggestion would be some modifier or removal of this feature after a certain year (~1600?) to show the decline of the crusades.

 

[magnusvejby]

A great idea! My only suggestion would be some modifier or removal of this feature after a certain year (~1600?) to show the decline of the crusades.

Currently you can't delcare crusades after 1650, I think. So that is already in game!

 

[NorwegianGamer]

Noooo too many wars would be declared at once...

You'd then need a CB for heathens to defend the crusade target etc, else they'll get roflstomped for sure.

In short, what you want is CKII crusades...

Well, what would be the point of having crusades if only the current nations at war with the target could participate?

 

[Sharp163]

Currently you can't delcare crusades after 1650, I think. So that is already in game!

Ah, even better

 

[Sagif]

The Crusade CB is a nice idea... But is extremely overpowered as it is... Imagine that the Pope calls for a Crusade against Morocco... Suddenly, you have all of Europe declaring war on poor sandy Morocco...

I would suggest that you could only get a valid Crusade CB if:

• Opinion of the Papal State, +75;
• Opinion of the target of the Crusade -75;
• Not have Humanist Ideas chosen;
• Something more, something less...

 

[Zelius]

Well, what would be the point of having crusades if only the current nations at war with the target could participate?

All land-border Catholics can also start a war and get Crusade bonuses, IIRC.

 

[Mustajuttu]

I think if this was to be a thing, Only Catholic nations with Religious ideas and good relations with the pope should get the CB.

PS. I also think that Muslim countries with good relations with the target of a crusade should be able to intervene in the crusade and get a Jihad effect similar to the crusade one.

PPS. obviously muslim rivlas of the agressor should be able to join in my opinion

 

[BrokenSky]

I think if this was to be a thing, Only Catholic nations with Religious ideas and good relations with the pope should get the CB.

PS. I also think that Muslim countries with good relations with the target of a crusade should be able to intervene in the crusade and get a Jihad effect similar to the crusade one.

PPS. obviously muslim rivlas of the agressor should be able to join in my opinion

Religious ideas already gives you a CB.

It could give you an event to join a war with the pope as war-leader and with spoils being distributed based on war-score, or even if land taken created a new Crusader-State, which had a ruler with the dynasty of the highest war-score contributing monarchy? This country would also receive bonus mana like when your candidate gets elected by elective monarchy. Something like the CK2 version.

 

[Mustajuttu]

Religious ideas already gives you a CB.

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Yes I know, that deus vult already gives a CB. religious ideas is my most used one. But it's doesn't give you CB on other than neighboring heretics. What I am implying is that deus vult should maybe also give CB to target of Crusade aswell.

 

[BrokenSky]

Yes I know, that deus vult already gives a CB. religious ideas is my most used one. But it's doesn't give you CB on other than neighboring heretics. What I am implying is that deus vult should maybe also give CB to target of Crusade aswell.

i thought it gave it for neighboring heathens also? The Crusade will only be called on heathens i think?