Crusades

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I need your help people...

I was visiting my family in Paris this week, and was playing this game this week... I got so caught up in it that I missed some tourism sites LOL... But I have a question...

Crusades, How do they work ?

I am now familiar with (I think) all of the different menus...

Yet, while conquering muslim territories, I get extra piety for these new terrirories. Yet, if I do declare war, and conquer territory, is this a "Crusade" ?

I still lose -1.2 0r more Piety PER MONTH..

What am I doing wrong ?

Is there a Crusade button somewhere ? Jeez, the manual for EU 1 was better than this. (Sorry Paradox, I love you anyway.... ........)


Or is a Crusade 'assumed" if you are fighting/and conquering pagans or muslims.

Help ?

Thx
Jean

 

[Sterkarm]

When the Pope calls a crusade, you lose piety each month because of crusade expectations. However, you can easily gain this back by conquering pagans/muslims. You ordinarily do not gain piety for this, but during Crusades you can gain quite a lot simply from one province. Even by conquering the Moldavia region (4 counties), I gained about 120 piety. So, if you conquer during crusade, you gain piety, but it doesn't stop the crusade expectations, it just increases your piety (in the end, if you crusade just a little bit, you'll end up gaining a lot of piety from crusades).

 

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Also, crusade expectations have to do with the amount of territory you have, and whether you have the Crusader trait. The more territory, the higher your expectations, and the Crusader trait multiplies your expectations by about 5. You get -much- more piety for conquering provinces in the area around Jerusalem; 200, instead of 20 for other non-catholic provinces. Jerusalem itself is worth a whopping 2000 piety. These are multiplied by 5 if you have the Crusader trait, making for potentially a -ton- of piety. You can only get the Crusader trait if you have the Zealous trait; a special event will eventually occur while a crusade is going on, giving you the option of getting the trait or not.

 

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Also, crusade expectations have to do with the amount of territory you have, and whether you have the Crusader trait. The more territory, the higher your expectations, and the Crusader trait multiplies your expectations by about 5. You get -much- more piety for conquering provinces in the area around Jerusalem; 200, instead of 20 for other non-catholic provinces. Jerusalem itself is worth a whopping 2000 piety. These are multiplied by 5 if you have the Crusader trait, making for potentially a -ton- of piety. You can only get the Crusader trait if you have the Zealous trait; a special event will eventually occur while a crusade is going on, giving you the option of getting the trait or not.

You can also get the Trait Crusader if your have a deformity trait(ex. Hunchback). I think there's also an event for heretics.

 

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You can also get the Trait Crusader if your have a deformity trait(ex. Hunchback). I think there's also an event for heretics.

*smacks himself* That's right, I forgot. There are other events which will cure various negative traits you might have, and which depend on having those traits (e.g. hare-lip, skeptical).

 

[Morpheus506]

If you capture Jerusalem, gaining all that piety, what happens if you lose it? Do you lose the piety again? Or does it remain, opening the possibility of exploits where the player can capture, purposely lose, then recapture Jerusalem?

 

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If you capture Jerusalem, gaining all that piety, what happens if you lose it? Do you lose the piety again? Or does it remain, opening the possibility of exploits where the player can capture, purposely lose, then recapture Jerusalem?

I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that you can keep losing and reconquering the provinces indefinitely, to gain massive amounts of piety. Which is of course an exploit (of course, the current game balance when it comes to the rate of losing piety versus gaining piety through crusading seems to expect crusade provinces to be lost and recaptured from time to time).

 

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When the Pope calls a crusade, you lose piety each month because of crusade expectations. However, you can easily gain this back by conquering pagans/muslims. You ordinarily do not gain piety for this, but during Crusades you can gain quite a lot simply from one province. Even by conquering the Moldavia region (4 counties), I gained about 120 piety. So, if you conquer during crusade, you gain piety, but it doesn't stop the crusade expectations, it just increases your piety (in the end, if you crusade just a little bit, you'll end up gaining a lot of piety from crusades).

Sorry, what country were you playing (how big was your demesne), and at what difficulty? Some of us have conquered half the world without gaining much prestige

 

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Thx to all

Too bad

I would have loved to be able to "announce" a Crusade as a catholic country or "Jihad" as Muslime, sort of like Medieval Total war...

Thx to all you great people for the info

Take care
Jean