I'm playing as an orthodox kingdom of Sicily in the latest patch. The pope has declared at least two crusades that the catholic AIs have won according to the popups yet no land was conquered. Any ideas what is going on?
Crusades declared won, no land conquered
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There is an issue? Do you have savegames from before the issue for replication?
I have won all the crusades in my games so I have not seen any issues with them myself.
I have won all the crusades in my games so I have not seen any issues with them myself.
I've had this happen in 1.07b and earlier. I don't have a save game to test with now, but from what I remember it wasn't actually a problem with the crusade being won and no land being taken, it's that the crusade ended because of another event but the popup still said the Catholics won.
Ah, that makes sense. It would be nicer to have the popup say that the crusade has been cancelled. The last one I saw declared Scotland the winner, I was looking forward to the unlikely Scots trying to hold down the KoJ.
The pope dieing stops crusades? Are you sure?
It is more likely that the target has lost all the land that could be taken in the war to someone else, or they were actually rebelling and no longer rebelling. Although I think the second option results in an inconclusive war.
It is more likely that the target has lost all the land that could be taken in the war to someone else, or they were actually rebelling and no longer rebelling. Although I think the second option results in an inconclusive war.
I've seen this before post-patch. This happens when the de jure duchy title holder is nor the de facto liege or controller of the counties in that duchy.
Yea the pope declared a crusade on an imprisoned guy and then they won literally 5 days later and no land gains
I have managed to find a save and reproduce this (I didn't think I had one originally). Basically in my game the crusade ended because the Pope became landless mid-crusade. The popup however says that the crusade was won. It sounds like there may be other issues present as well around the crusade popups though:
Save file here
Load as Duke of Sicily and enforce demands on the Pope to see it happen.
Save file here
Load as Duke of Sicily and enforce demands on the Pope to see it happen.
Post my problem with the wrong crusade popup here, but I think there are other issues too as the OP's problem doesn't seem to be likely to be the same cause as mine.I'd say go post this in the bug report sub forum and give them the save file
I've seen this happen with a jihad for the Kingdom of Jerusalem (started 10 seconds after I began the game, of course). Muslims won but no land was actually taken. And I wasn't sure if it's a bug since I'd been doing some minor casus belli modding (though not to the crusade CB) which might have had something to do with it...
I just had this happen actually. England won Crusade on Andalusia and while he did gain the title of King of Andalusia, he gained no holdings in there.
Interesting, so something is happening here. In my game, both phantom crusades were against a powerful Fatimid state, so no chance of the crusade target's lands changing hands mid crusade. I'll check my saves to see if I can reproduce it.
I can explain it.
It happens when crusade interfear with muslim decadance invasion. When invader wins, crusade is no longer valid cause crusade target no longer owns lands, but it cant end inconclusivly so it is declared succesfull.
It happens when crusade interfear with muslim decadance invasion. When invader wins, crusade is no longer valid cause crusade target no longer owns lands, but it cant end inconclusivly so it is declared succesfull.
I've just had this happen as well, and it was pretty irritating as I have just worked my way up to Egyptian Caliph and had retinues poised on the Jerusalem border for when the land was transferred to the 'winner', in this case the Duke of Aquitaine. What actually happened in my case was that the 'Seljuks' (actually Kaytun at this point) were in a faction war for independence, the area targetted by the crusade was part of the faction. The crusade occupied all the faction land who then surrended to the 'Seljuk' Caliph rather than the crusaders, there are also 3 other internal wars going on in the 'Seljuks' for various things (2 claim wars and a pretender). I still had the pop-up saying the crusade was won as normal but obviously no land was gained and my armies left disappointed.
On the other hand there does not seem to be an issue with Jihads, apart from the fact that I can't call any depsite being the Shia Caliph...
It really needs sorting out as it's a complete pain when it happens.
On the other hand there does not seem to be an issue with Jihads, apart from the fact that I can't call any depsite being the Shia Caliph...
It really needs sorting out as it's a complete pain when it happens.