Crusaders attacked me while I was on a holy war.

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Ok so I'm a king of Portugal and i'm waging a holy war to take a duchy in Andalusia. The Pope calls a crusade against Andalusia. Fine, they can help me out. Nope. They disembark and immediately destroy my army 2:1. This is bullshit. I am a catholic native to these lands and these crusaders show up and clash their holy armies of catholic god, against my holy army of catholic god and destroy me because they want those lands. Sad, didn't jesus teach not to be greedy or something?
 
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Ok so I'm a king of Portugal and i'm waging a holy war to take a duchy in Andalusia. The Pope calls a crusade against Andalusia. Fine, they can help me out. Nope. They disembark and immediately destroy my army 2:1. This is bullshit. I am a catholic native to these lands and these crusaders show up and clash their holy armies of catholic god, against my holy army of catholic god and destroy me because they want those lands. Sad, didn't jesus teach not to be greedy or something?
Def doesn't seem right.

In CK2 you'd be allied to each other, and they wouldn't be able to attack your army, and would of helped in the siege instead.
 
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Ok so I'm a king of Portugal and i'm waging a holy war to take a duchy in Andalusia. The Pope calls a crusade against Andalusia. Fine, they can help me out. Nope. They disembark and immediately destroy my army 2:1. This is bullshit. I am a catholic native to these lands and these crusaders show up and clash their holy armies of catholic god, against my holy army of catholic god and destroy me because they want those lands.
Did you join the crusade?
 
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Sad, didn't jesus teach not to be greedy or something?
Most of them don't care about Jesus. They are here to conquer land and you are their competitor.

Now you know how the Byzantines felt on the 4th crusade.
All you need to know about crusaders. Don't forget that Northern Crusades targeted orthodox christians too.
 
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It's probably an oversight. The enemies of your enemies are also your enemies when you attack someone for a title. Conflict of interest, I guess. It's handy if you're both going for the same title and you want to make sure they do not win their war and take the title right under your nose, also would be annoying if you couldn't siege your target counties because another one already sieged them. Crusades should probably be exempt from this is the other party has the same faith. Thoughts?
 
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Ok so I'm a king of Portugal and i'm waging a holy war to take a duchy in Andalusia. The Pope calls a crusade against Andalusia. Fine, they can help me out. Nope. They disembark and immediately destroy my army 2:1. This is bullshit. I am a catholic native to these lands and these crusaders show up and clash their holy armies of catholic god, against my holy army of catholic god and destroy me because they want those lands. Sad, didn't jesus teach not to be greedy or something?
Seems like Pardox finally made crusades historically accurate.
 
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Did you join the crusade?
I only gave money, except first I decided to wait a bit so I postponed the decision, then gave the pope the lowest amount of money for the crusade. I mean I was already going to do my part. You know the funny thing is after they won I was given all the land. The worst part is they specifically disembarked on the county I was seiging, like they had planned it all along. "Alright so we're going to teach this king a lesson, that's our top priority".
 
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If you had joined the crusade it would have invalidated your war and you'd have a pretty good chance of being awarded the province AND lots of money and piety as #1 contributor. Missed a trick there.
 
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I only gave money, except first I decided to wait a bit so I postponed the decision, then gave the pope the lowest amount of money for the crusade. I mean I was already going to do my part. You know the funny thing is after they won I was given all the land. The worst part is they specifically disembarked on the county I was seiging, like they had planned it all along. "Alright so we're going to teach this king a lesson, that's our top priority".
Ok, then that's why. Think about it this way: the Holy Father himself has declared a crusade, and upon requesting you to join you reply "I will unfortunately be unable to commit my forces to this great holy war, but I will assist with funding. God be with you!"

Fair enough, thinks the Pope and the crusaders. Then the crusade is launched, and upon arriving at the target they discover... You, waging your own private holy war trying to conquer a piece of the pie just for yourself, independently of everyone else.

It's perhaps not so surprising that there may be some (bad) blood, no? :)
 
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Ok, then that's why. Think about it this way: the Holy Father himself has declared a crusade, and upon requesting you to join you reply "I will unfortunately be unable to commit my forces to this great holy war, but I will assist with funding. God be with you!"

Fair enough, thinks the Pope and the crusaders. Then the crusade is launched, and upon arriving at the target they discover... You, waging your own private holy war trying to conquer a piece of the pie just for yourself, independently of everyone else.

It's perhaps not so surprising that there may be some (bad) blood, no? :)
I guess when you put it that way lol. ANyways I ended up getting excommunicated so now im converting iberia to insular christianity. Good times.

Also, someone respectfully disagreed with my last post? I was giving an account of what happened in my game, not really something to disagree or agree about.
 

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I guess when you put it that way lol. ANyways I ended up getting excommunicated so now im converting iberia to insular christianity. Good times.

Also, someone respectfully disagreed with my last post? I was giving an account of what happened in my game, not really something to disagree or agree about.
i disagreed with your assessment of "already doing your part".
I mean I was already going to do my part.
 

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i disagreed with your assessment of "already doing your part".
Oh. Well I was. Conquering muslims for christ and all that. In fact, Pope man could have just crusaded jerusalem again and I would have taken care of iberia all by myself. Ended up taking north africa too.
 

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Oh. Well I was. Conquering muslims for christ and all that. In fact, Pope man could have just crusaded jerusalem again and I would have taken care of iberia all by myself. Ended up taking north africa too.
Ah, but it would end up in your hands and not be ordained by the pope. Popes are petty like that with power.
 

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Oh. Well I was. Conquering muslims for christ and all that. In fact, Pope man could have just crusaded jerusalem again and I would have taken care of iberia all by myself. Ended up taking north africa too.
Sorry the quote was going to do your part, which reads as "I am already attacking them in Andalucia" so therefore the Pope should be okay with it.

I didn't feel that excused you from what Karlington implied in the question

Did you join the crusade?
and then had to further expound after your reply with...

Ok, then that's why. Think about it this way: the Holy Father himself has declared a crusade, and upon requesting you to join you reply "I will unfortunately be unable to commit my forces to this great holy war, but I will assist with funding. God be with you!"

Fair enough, thinks the Pope and the crusaders. Then the crusade is launched, and upon arriving at the target they discover... You, waging your own private holy war trying to conquer a piece of the pie just for yourself, independently of everyone else.

It's perhaps not so surprising that there may be some (bad) blood, no? :)
 
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Now you know how the Byzantines felt on the 4th crusade.
Funny thing is this happened also before they sacked Constaninople, then the 4th Crusade sacked and pillaged and enslaved a catholic town before. The Pope had been a little bit unhappy about that. Siege of Zara is there the example, it is also desciribed in the Wikipedia Article about the 4th Crusade.
 
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