Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods - Dev Diary 1 - A Different Europe

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Brilliant. I think I'm going to like being a Pagan it suits my impatient nature!
 

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Hm, will British Isles be Orthodox or Catholic at the start, btw? (If we start as divided Christianity.)

It should be Orthodox, if I'm not mistaken (and Ireland should be Orthodox in 1066, I think).
 

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Incredible! I can't wait.
 

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It should be Orthodox, if I'm not mistaken (and Ireland should be Orthodox in 1066, I think).

They had pretty much thier own flavour of Christianity and it certainly wasn't alike to the Greek rite, so will this really be a legit thing to do?

What do you think about the representation of the Slavic lands?
 

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Hm, will British Isles be Orthodox or Catholic at the start, btw? (If we start as divided Christianity.)

It should be Orthodox, if I'm not mistaken (and Ireland should be Orthodox in 1066, I think).

Orthodox? I never heard of that, Celtic Christianity did have some own practices, but the authority of Rome and the Papacy were venerated at a same level as in other parts of Catholic Europe.
 

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Orthodox? I never heard of that, Celtic Christianity did have some own practices, but the authority of Rome and the Papacy were venerated at a same level as in other parts of Catholic Europe.

Well, I just mean "not yet Catholic". Because in the game it will likely be Catholic or Orthodox.

They had pretty much thier own flavour of Christianity and it certainly wasn't alike to the Greek rite, so will this really be a legit thing to do?

What do you think about the representation of the Slavic lands?

I can't say much about those lands, I really want to see culture and religion map.
 

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Well, I just mean "not yet Catholic".

While officially the Great Schism didn't yet happen, the western and eastern Christianities were politically divided at least since Charlemagne and in 867 are different enough that they can be separated into Catholic and Orthodox. A good example are the Rus: Vladimir considered two Churches separate long before the Schism actually happened.
 

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Celtic Paganism?

Isn't it a little late for Celtic Paganism, even Ireland was christianised more than 300 years before the game started.
 

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While officially the Great Schism didn't yet happen, the western and eastern Christianities were politically divided at least since Charlemagne and in 867 are different enough that they can be separated into Catholic and Orthodox.

Yep. But my point is that Ireland/British Isles weren't yet Catholic at the time. Or am I wrong?
 

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I'm from Russia, but I only see two Nordic-Russian states on that map, nothing really informative.

Exactly. How legit according to you are the two blobs named Holmgardr and Koenugardr instead of a dozen of Slavic pagan tribes at this date?
 

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Exactly. How legit according to you are the two blobs named Holmgardr and Koenugardr instead of a dozen of Slavic pagan tribes?

That's why I want to see culture map. Maybe they made several tribes this way and melting pot to make Russian culture will start soon enough from the start.

I think they will explain situation in Rus in later DD.

They had been for centuries.

Eh, at that start date? Really? Wikipedia says it was only from 1154, but I'm not an expert on Ireland.