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Thanks for that post Lord_P but I am still a lick confused...

As a rule of thumb, if you own any provinces outside your de jure capital duchy, you will lose those provinces but retain your capital provinces. So remember to obtain more provinces outside your capital duchy.

Why would I want to obtain more provinces outside of my capital if I am going to loose them?

Soz for being a div! I have just had the succession crisis and my primary heir has inherited a total of two counties. I am always getting inheritance warnings but don't know how to manage them. My dude had before succession: Kingdom, 2 douches, lots of random counties. (I selected the holdings my dude kept purely on value btw, which is probably why I had messed up.)

Is there a guide that gives a detailed break down of what is happening and how to protect my successor? I couldn't change laws by the way. (The new dude might be able to but he only has two counties).
 

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Thanks for that post Lord_P but I am still a lick confused...



Why would I want to obtain more provinces outside of my capital if I am going to loose them?

Soz for being a div! I have just had the succession crisis and my primary heir has inherited a total of two counties. I am always getting inheritance warnings but don't know how to manage them. My dude had before succession: Kingdom, 2 douches, lots of random counties. (I selected the holdings my dude kept purely on value btw, which is probably why I had messed up.)

Is there a guide that gives a detailed break down of what is happening and how to protect my successor? I couldn't change laws by the way. (The new dude might be able to but he only has two counties).

To give them to your younger sons. That way your heir will get the whole of the capital duchy.
 
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Basic rule is to have at least one county outside your primary duchy for each son you have after the first. Otherwise they will claim some of your primary duchy counties.

Assuming you manage this then you want to build up, as much as possible, your capital and other counties in your primary duchy, since this is what you pass on to your heir. (Select the best duchy in terms of holdings/counties to be your primary duchy.)

Having more counties than in the basic rule and/or building them up will make your other sons stronger on succession. Your call if you want that in a given situation, or not. Also if you have more than one duchy the younger sons will take entire duchies which can mean you need a few more counties (i.e. count any non-primary duchy and all the de jure counties within it as a single county for the purposes of the basic rule).
 
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Another thing you can do is marry an older woman, past 45 yrs, just for her stats. Then just use concubines until you get a male heir, then set them aside. That way you'll only have one heir. If he dies early, get concubines again and repeat. Admittedly though it can be risky if you have no 'spare' heirs in case your sole heir dies late in your characters life.
 
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Why is my second eldest inheriting everything! I own an entire douchy. My eldest has a provence somewhere. The other has nothing.
The other son is inheriting all of my douchy!

Why?
 

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What's the county limit for vassal Merchant Republics - I know it's based on your realm size somehow...

The rule is that you can not create additional counties ruled by mayors (it's not specific to merchant republics) or bishops if 10% of your counties are already ruled by mayors/bishops. However, there is no limit to how many feudal counts you can transfer under mayors/bishops and they will be able to switch those counties to their government type if they gain direct control through escheat or revocation.
 

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Why is my second eldest inheriting everything! I own an entire douchy. My eldest has a provence somewhere. The other has nothing.
The other son is inheriting all of my douchy!

Why?
See my post a bit higher. Your primary heir is inheriting your capital duchy and all provinces inside. Your other son inherits everything else. Gavelkind is a strange thing.
 

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I am sure I moved my capital to the entire douchy. But my second son inherited my capital and the entire douchy it was in. Can I have a capital douchy which is separate from my capital?
 

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Oh, one of your sons was already landed. That makes it a somewhat different scenario.

Your capital defines your capital county/duchy/kingdom/empire. If you are a multi-duke and not yet king you can make another duchy your primary (which counts for inheritance purposes) without moving your capital but once you are king or above I don't think you can use this approach.

Gavelkind is a strange beast, particularly once some of your sons are landed. I think in your instance it gave the entire capital duchy to your second son because your first already had land outside of it (it looked presumably for more land in the duchy which your 1st son had his county capital couldn't find it and passed on to giving stuff to your 2nd). Not sure why your youngest missed out entirely my best guess it that the routine after giving out the entire duchy to the 2nd (because the 1st had land in another duchy already) looked for land possessed by your 1st (gavelkind inheritance incorrectly assuming that your 1st son had a complete duchy) which it could give to your 3rd and couldn't find any and stopped there.

Whether this succession is working as intended is a good question.
 

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Yup, the dude was landed. Is this fixable?

I also moved my capital so I could switch religions. I have gone back to my home one.
So how would I make this inheritance more favorable? I think I have enough time to jig some counties about. I want my main heir to get the most.

I am trying to get the Kingdom of David achievement! It's really hard!!!

I hope the screenshots help...

Why this succession.jpg
Me


My successor.jpg

My successor (though I wish he wasn't)


My second son.jpg
My second son who is seems to be getting more than my other one!

What can I do about it?

Thanks!!!!
 

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I've just got Way of Life and been wondering if there's an easy way to find people I can duel, instead of keep scrolling down the 'Find Characters' window, like showing characters with the excommunicated trait, for example. Or I don't know, how to make rivals.
Also, is there a way I can know whom the pope is willing to excommunicate? The explore opinions just works to see what people think of him.
Thank you. :)
 

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One of my raiders destroyed a christian trading post in Abbasid lands - when I landed them they attacked the trading post first then the capital. How does that work because typically the capital is raided first. Is it random?

Also, is there another way to destroy a trading post that's not on your land?
 

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Also when/how do I go feudal? I have all Taurica as my demesne but would it make more sense to invade somebody like Bulgaria or the byzzies so that I don't have to start from scratch?
 

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I've been away from CK2 for a while, and in my new game I see that when I capture new provinces the holdings of those provinces are often still owned by other rulers. As duke of Sardinia I've conquered some Sicilian provinces and all the holdings except the capital forts are owned by Byzantium, which is not the realm I conquered the provinces from either. How can I make them all mine?
 

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I formed Tartaria with Bolghar (Altaic) culture and reformed Tengriism. What will happen when the hordes arrive? Will they be reformed Tengri like me? Will sharing the Altaic culture group spare me their wrath?

Also when/how do I go feudal? I have all Taurica as my demesne but would it make more sense to invade somebody like Bulgaria or the byzzies so that I don't have to start from scratch?

They'll be Old Tengri, but might convert to it. Also, it likely won't save wrath, though it might lead to them attacking others first. Better off making an alliance. Least you might have a chance then of taking the event troops for yourself.

I honestly can't help with the transition from tribal as I still haven't gone to CM.
 

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How do you see moral authority of other religions?

There's a ledger option below the minimap. In that, click until you find the page for religions. Shows head, authority and provinces for all the faiths.
 
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I formed Tartaria with Bolghar (Altaic) culture and reformed Tengriism. What will happen when the hordes arrive? Will they be reformed Tengri like me? Will sharing the Altaic culture group spare me their wrath?

Also when/how do I go feudal? I have all Taurica as my demesne but would it make more sense to invade somebody like Bulgaria or the byzzies so that I don't have to start from scratch?
You need to be reformed pagan (actually I do not know how it works for pagans more the the east from slavic/germanic), then you must have absolute tribal authority and then you need to have fort level IV (stone one). You are good to go at this point. Option is clickable, but I strongly recommend active help in upgrades of forts of your vassals BEFORE you click. Save some money for mercs as well, as you will be very, very weak at the beggning ( levies from your demense smaller 3-4 times).
 

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Yup, the dude was landed. Is this fixable?

I also moved my capital so I could switch religions. I have gone back to my home one.
So how would I make this inheritance more favorable? I think I have enough time to jig some counties about. I want my main heir to get the most.

I am trying to get the Kingdom of David achievement! It's really hard!!!

I hope the screenshots help...

What can I do about it?

Thanks!!!!

Perhaps just leave as is? The division shown in the screenshots (they do help) is fair. They both get two more counties while the elder gets a kingdom and the younger a duchy. Looks like the elder gets the counties of your current capital duchy? All that will be needed to sort it out after succession will be to get the duchy title back from your brother.

Another possible course is to murder a (your elder?) son - the one son policy someone mentioned above. He has pretty poor prospects (and is not a Jew). If you don't then find him a good stewardship wife.

Or you could try revoking your older sons titles, leaving him your heir but hating you lots. I'm pretty sure that this would leave him inheriting your capital/primary duchy and its counties but still numerically sharing the titles with the younger son in the same proportion. Damietta duchy title would then go to the younger though.

If you gave away a county to someone other than your sons, or gained another into your desmesne I think it likely that you will pass one less to the younger and one more to the elder respectively but that's about the most favourable (i.e. unbalanced) outcome I can see happening easily. All this assuming you take no more land and have no more sons...

If you take Aswan duchy back I think that will go to your youngest instead of your capital duchy title (talking titles not land here). That is probably the most favourable minimal change with the two sons as is.

Beyond that although I don't have great experience in that part of the world I personally would be looking to get Damietta as my capital duchy, holding Cairo as a secondary. Arguably better i reckon.