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Playing as a vassal Emir Muslim: My second wife has a weak claim on the sultanate (says it can be inherited), but our first son doesn't have that claim, what needs to happen for the son to have it, does she have to die for the claim to show in his 'claims' line?
 

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Playing as a vassal Emir Muslim: My second wife has a weak claim on the sultanate (says it can be inherited), but our first son doesn't have that claim, what needs to happen for the son to have it, does she have to die for the claim to show in his 'claims' line?
She has to die, also, your sons claim wont be inheritable.
 

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Uhh, I'm not sure if I hit a bug or what but...

So I started a game as a random count of Lucca using a custom starting Dynasty name as Medici, of course, intending to become Tuscany/Florence. The problem is that I can't become a republic.

I've tried dozens of weird ways over the past two or three hours to try and get this to work but nope. I made my original guy move duchies and swap primary titles, but can't seem to give my now ex heir all the land in Tuscany or even Pisa. There are some cases where I can give Pisa (the whole duchy) but can't give anything in Tuscany. What I'm doing is I give my heir a City, gave the now Mayor a county, and the Lord Mayor a Duchy (though, sometimes I can't do this for some reason). I've tried just giving him a county city (like Pisa or Siena) and then giving him a bunch of cities. Nope. Blah I'm too tired its 6 AM.

Oh, there was one time when I did succeed but then when I went to reload into it it said 'I can't play Republics!' when I have the DLC on and can even play a different Republic I also released under a different guy (Genoa). Is there some rule that the leader of a Republic can't own any Baronies (including county baronies) or something?

Is the idea to destroy the Tuscany title, move primary title + capital to Spoleto, transfer titles, then reload? Bah I can't think. I think I even tried that.

Could this be related to De Jure Capitals? Every Duchy has one and creating a republic that has a De Jure capital that is not coastal is problematic. Tuscany's De Jure Capital is not coastal right? Pretty sure this is what you're seeing - I think you can in some cases create merchant republics from duchies that don't have its De Jure Capital on the coast but you will run into problems doing so, so it's best not to.
 
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As a Muslim ruler, can you not plot to assassinate your secondary wives? At first I thought it was because I'm "Content", but then I noticed I can do it for my primary wife. Is this WAD? (don't know why it should be).
 

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As a Muslim ruler, can you not plot to assassinate your secondary wives? At first I thought it was because I'm "Content", but then I noticed I can do it for my primary wife. Is this WAD? (don't know why it should be).

Are you looking at their character sheets or are you trying to do it from the plot menu? The plot menu only has certain plots of special interest, but you can plot to assassinate anyone (except your own children).
 

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Are you looking at their character sheets or are you trying to do it from the plot menu? The plot menu only has certain plots of special interest, but you can plot to assassinate anyone (except your own children).
At their character sheets. You can try it yourself, start a game as a duke (emir) in say Umayyad, marry 3 women. You'll be able to plot kill your first wife, but not the 2nd or 3rd.
 

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Ok, what the hell is happening here? What does it mean becoming independent de jure instead of being incorporated, and how is it assimilating into the Kingdom of France when that isn't my primary title?

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Ok, what the hell is happening here? What does it mean becoming independent de jure instead of being incorporated, and how is it assimilating into the Kingdom of France when that isn't my primary title?

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Was the Kingdom of France your primary title recently? Incorporation doesn't stop right away, it will stick around for as long as it was being incorporated.

As for independent do you hold any kingdom titles at all? My guess is the Duchy is incorporating into the Empire of Francia, but not as part of a kingdom.

http://www.ckiiwiki.com/De_jure
 

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Was the Kingdom of France your primary title recently? Incorporation doesn't stop right away, it will stick around for as long as it was being incorporated.

As for independent do you hold any kingdom titles at all? My guess is the Duchy is incorporating into the Empire of Francia, but not as part of a kingdom.

http://www.ckiiwiki.com/De_jure
Nope, the Empire of France has been my primary title for more than 100 years now, my only other titles are the Kingdom of France, Duchy of Valois, the 3 counties in Valois, and 3 extra baronies in Paris. Furthermore, if you look at the screenshot, its only the Duchy of Cordoba and a single county in the Duchy of Toledo "becoming independent, de jure, as Empire of France" and "Being incorporated, de jure, into the Kingdom of France" while all the other Duchies in the Kingdom of Andalusia are "Being incorporated, de jure, into the Empire of France".
 

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Gavelkind question.

My oldest son is independent king of Otherland and I am king of Myland.
I hold one duchy and 3 counties beside king title. My son has 2 or 3 brothers.

I am at elective g but thinking of changing to normal g.

1) would he still be number one heir for Kingdom Myland despite him owning Otherland?
2) would his possessions (few counties) in Otherland Impact how much of my counties/duchies he inherits?
 

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In Rome Vae Victis, you could rotate, spin, lower the horizon of the landscape by holding down the 'control' key and moving the mouse. A fantastic feature which I inadvertently re-created in CK2 by accident. The map was simply horizontal. I have no idea what key(s) I pressed and cannot replicate it. The .ini optiion for camera action is not doing it.

Anyone in the know?

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My character died with one empire, one kingdom title under gavelkind. My heir got those two titles but then the old king's son got kingdom titles that I had not created but had vassalized.
So, the game created the kingdom titles for me. Should that happen or is this a bug?
 

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My character died with one empire, one kingdom title under gavelkind. My heir got those two titles but then the old king's son got kingdom titles that I had not created but had vassalized.
So, the game created the kingdom titles for me. Should that happen or is this a bug?

That's how Elective Gavelkind works. Any titles that can be created will be created if it gives your potential heirs more equitable holdings.
 

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Elective Gavelkind does that.

Also, my question is, should i be granting Vice-roy king titles as the emperor of Britannia or should i just create normal vassals?
And should i activate Imperial instead of Feudalism once i get legalism 5?
How will it really help me? I guess it helps me by me being able to get extra opinion every time i grant it once they die, but is it worth the -2 opinion with feudal vassals?
 

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Elective Gavelkind does that.

Also, my question is, should i be granting Vice-roy king titles as the emperor of Britannia or should i just create normal vassals?
And should i activate Imperial instead of Feudalism once i get legalism 5?
How will it really help me? I guess it helps me by me being able to get extra opinion every time i grant it once they die, but is it worth the -2 opinion with feudal vassals?

It only gives the -2 with feudal if you have feudal. The best way to use it is to reduce your feudal vassal counts by making them all Viceroys or under Viceroys. I don't think there's one truly right answer that suits every case, but done correctly, an Imperial System of mostly Viceroys will be more stable -- with Duke Viceroys, you no longer risk multi-Dukes because they can't inherit Duchies. If someone is getting too uppity, you just revoke the Viceroyship and force them to fight you alone. You can keep anyone who hates you from getting too strong even more easily than before.
 

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Can viceroys change succession law? I've seen viceroy kings change tax laws and crown authority. But I haven't played with it enough to know if the viceroy has the power to screw up your succession shoul you choose to revoke the viceroyalty title to resume direct rule at certain point.