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Alliance question: Playing as Petty King of Deheubarth in Wales (792). I have an alliance with the Petty King of Powys (his brother is married to my daughter). He shows green under Allies. I executed a plot to revoke a county from one of my vassals. The vassal was able to call another Petty King but I'm not able to call in Powys? Why is that?
 

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What the hell, why can't I duel or imprison this guy?

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Yet another succession question: My empire is under agnatic primogeniture. The current emperor I can't stand and his heir was his 3rd cousin as his father and grandfather only had one son each. The third cousin is OK, but HIS son is an amazing genius betrothed to the current emperor's genius daughter. It works both agnatically and as a bit of role play. So the problem is that the cousin dies and the game states that the new heir is the cousin's brother and then that cousin's son followed by the original son I really want to play as. I've done recalc_succ and saved and restarted to no help.
I thought the game treated all people in primogeniture like they were alive to get to the correct heir.
I think I have 3 options:
1 - I have the Pope as a vassal so I could excommunicate the two and go from there to get rid of them - maybe send them to the holy orders
2 - I can try to imprison and hope for the best and live with the tyranny
3 - I can go to war and try to get the two killed
Does anyone have any other options I may have overlooked?
 

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I got my vassal merch republic to revolt, i tried to imprison him and failed, and he revolted, but i still didnt even see any options in the revocation screen later on. Do i have to have a claim or does he have to revolt with a faction or something?
Id really want to destroy the republic and recreate it in my primary kingdom, or atleast get a non de jure county away from him, but it doesnt even let me do that.
And the county isnt even de jure Wales while his duchy is, so i really dont want to make him a double duke over both duchies either. Otherwise i would just give up and make him my first double duke that i wont revoke the secondary duchy of.
EDIT: I also should mention i tried intrigue focus spy on but i only got an reason to imprison him, revoke title popup screen thing was empty of all titles before and after my imprisonment attemt.
Atleast it earned me 300 ducats...
 
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I play Venice, 769 start, it's about 4 years into the game and I cannot create the Kingom, because I need more land, which I cannot currently obtain. Now I would like to change the default free investiture to papal investiture... is there any way?

Also: As Venice (1-county-kingdom), is there any difference between creating the Kingdom via the title screen or creating a custom Kingdom? Of course the cost of doing to is different, but is the outcome any different, provided that Venezia is the only County/Duchy I hold?
 

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I play Venice, 769 start, it's about 4 years into the game and I cannot create the Kingom, because I need more land, which I cannot currently obtain. Now I would like to change the default free investiture to papal investiture... is there any way?
I think it has to be at least year 1000 to change to papal investiture.

Also: As Venice (1-county-kingdom), is there any difference between creating the Kingdom via the title screen or creating a custom Kingdom? Of course the cost of doing to is different, but is the outcome any different, provided that Venezia is the only County/Duchy I hold?
Not really. Your custom kingdom would turn the "real" Venice into a titular kingdom.
 

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Probably been answered before but can't find it. I recently came back to CK2 having been on a break since just before Charlemagne, obviously there have been a few changes since then, most of which I've got to grips with. However, one thing I don't understand is that, as a game as Pratihara in India in the Charlemagne start, I don't have the option to select elective succession. Elective gavelkind is there, but obviously I don't want that. Do I need to up my crown laws to unlock it? Or is it now only available to certain cultures?
 

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What causes the Papacy to change how Crusades are won? In my current/first game, the Papacy used to wait for 100% warscore and a Catholic claimant or, more often, I as the highest contributor to the war would get the lands. For the last three holy wars though, the Pope apparently settles for the "king" to convert to Catholicism which leads to kingdoms like Poland and Sweden crumbling due to revolts, being conquered, and/or ending up as a pagan led kingdom again. Is it due to the dates these Crusades occur? All three happened in the 13th century.

Nothing on the wiki says anything about rulers converting. I checked in the last two Crusades and there were definitely no Catholic claimants to the thrones.
 

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How do I give away a county, but keep a barony in it? I play Venice at the moment and when I wasn't Doge for a while, the bastard Doge conquered a county in Italy in which I held the city. I want the city, but I don't want the damn county - is there anyway I can release the county to independence or give it back to Italy, but keep the city?
 

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Hey all. I have another question. I want to raid but i also want to become feudal is there a christian feudal who can also keep on raiding like lollard or miaphite. Or nonly the pagans can raid while feudal?? Tnx
 

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Hey all. I have another question. I want to raid but i also want to become feudal is there a christian feudal who can also keep on raiding like lollard or miaphite. Or nonly the pagans can raid while feudal?? Tnx
That's actually in the first sentence of the Wiki article... you should really check that before asking - you get the answer faster as well :)

"Pagan and Hindu rulers, as well as tribal rulers of any religion, may raid enemy provinces without bothering to declare war."
 

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In my latest game I started out as a Welsh Petty King (earliest start date) and was surprised to see that I could immediately switch from Gavelkind to Primogeniture. Crown authority was at the lowest possible. Is this WAD?
 

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In my latest game I started out as a Welsh Petty King (earliest start date) and was surprised to see that I could immediately switch from Gavelkind to Primogeniture. Crown authority was at the lowest possible. Is this WAD?

"Petty kings" are not true kings. You have no true kingdom so you have no Crown Authority. With no Crown Authority and no King (de facto or de jure) to report to, you are kind of on your own... so yes, you can do as you please.

It's one of the reasons that starting in Ireland in 1066 is so recommended to new-commers.
 

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How do I give away a county, but keep a barony in it? I play Venice at the moment and when I wasn't Doge for a while, the bastard Doge conquered a county in Italy in which I held the city. I want the city, but I don't want the damn county - is there anyway I can release the county to independence or give it back to Italy, but keep the city?
Try giving the county itself to someone, then give the baronies and churches you dont want to some randoms, and then transfer those to under him, but keep the cities for yourself, then grant him independence. I think that should work.
 
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What causes the Papacy to change how Crusades are won? In my current/first game, the Papacy used to wait for 100% warscore and a Catholic claimant or, more often, I as the highest contributor to the war would get the lands. For the last three holy wars though, the Pope apparently settles for the "king" to convert to Catholicism which leads to kingdoms like Poland and Sweden crumbling due to revolts, being conquered, and/or ending up as a pagan led kingdom again. Is it due to the dates these Crusades occur? All three happened in the 13th century.

Nothing on the wiki says anything about rulers converting. I checked in the last two Crusades and there were definitely no Catholic claimants to the thrones.
It's always been like that. When target of a holy war, crusade etc. the attacked ruler has the decision to convert to the attacker's religion: http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Decisions#Conversion. It's the fourth one in the list (but you're right, the crusade site doesn't say anything about that decision, it should be added there).
Happens rarely, but if the AI takes the decision, the war ends.
 
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It's always been like that. When target of a holy war, crusade etc. the attacked ruler has the decision to convert to the attacker's religion: http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Decisions#Conversion. It's the fourth one in the list (but you're right, the crusade site doesn't say anything about that decision, it should be added there).
Happens rarely, but if the AI takes the decision, the war ends.

Thanks, it's weak sauce when it happens and you stand to gain the kingdom but at least I know where it comes from now. Heck, I even understand the reasoning behind it.
 

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Thanks, it's weak sauce when it happens and you stand to gain the kingdom but at least I know where it comes from now. Heck, I even understand the reasoning behind it.
I know how annoying this can be. They don't necessarily do it again, should you kill the process and load the last savegame...
 
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If a character has a weak claim that says "will not be inherited unless pressed in war" - does that mean that if I declare war for the claim and then white peace out that their children will now inherit the weak claim? In this case the child is of my dynasty but the current claimant is not so I'd rather press her child's claim if it can be inherited this way.
 

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If a character has a weak claim that says "will not be inherited unless pressed in war" - does that mean that if I declare war for the claim and then white peace out that their children will now inherit the weak claim? In this case the child is of my dynasty but the current claimant is not so I'd rather press her child's claim if it can be inherited this way.

That is how it works.
 

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I pressed my wife's strong claim for a 2-province petty kingdom. She ended up with both counties and the petty kingdom. Next thing I new, the previous ruler got it all back via "Faction Demand". How can that be if she had no vassals of count or above.