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In the province you want to get better tech.
The higher tech will spread form a province in your demesne into every other one of your demesne and it will always spread into, thus to increase the spread, the councillor has to be in the target province, the receiving one that is.

Hahahaha! Thanks you! I have been doing it wrong for the whole time. *facepalm*
 

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As a Republic it is possible to create the Titular Kingdom's of Genoa and Pisa if you hold Genoa or Pisa. Is it possible to do this if you already hold other Kingdom's?

EG could Venice theoretically hold the three Kingdom's of Venice, Genoa and Pisa swiftly after starting (with associated prestige monthly gains) without anyone being pissed off since there are no De Jure vassals of Genoa or Pisa to piss off?
Any idea?
 

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Any idea for when is the next hotfix/patch?


The from mongol and byzantine unit pack are screwed and i must thank Rajas of India for that
 

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But if you are constantly electing rulers from other families, wouldn't the prestige of your family suffer greatly?
I see a huge loss of control in that succession law... What is the benefit that would cause someone to pick it?

Elective should only be picked once all your dukes are from your dinasty. Nothing worse than your character dying much younger than expected , when your vassals still don't like you very much and thus getting you stripped of most of your titles by dudes from other dinasties.

A good reason to ragequit, if you ask me.
 

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1- Is it possible to become noble as a patrician and how ?
2- The other way around ?

1. Yes. You can declare independence if you have a county or higher title -- make sure your capital is a castle and not a city. The other way is to acquire a title equal in rank to your Doge while having your capital be a castle holding.
2. No, not really. It's not intended, at least. In theory, if you created a Republic with your family and then LOST your own last title, you would/could/should "jump" to that family line, kind of like what happens if you lose your last holy war somewhere and earlier married a son onto a ducal seat in far away France so you end up as that cadet branch. Still, it seems to be glitchy with this sort of thing.
 

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What is the point of marrying anyone who isn't your direct heir?
Obviously you can get alliances, but is there any way you can actually expand your empire by marrying people who aren't your heir?

For example, if you marry your brother to a suitor who is heir/title holder, their kid will inherit this title eventually, but he will only be a part of your dynasty, not your lands, so you've effectively not gained anything. Or am I missing something? I understand a lot of this game is benefiting your family name, but surely a lot of this depends on you being able to unite your lands?

At the moment the only use for them seems to be marrying 2nd in line to titles, inheriting their claim, and then pressing the claim for your dynasty member, as that's the only way he/she becomes a vassal of yours.
 

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If you do manage to get your dynasty installed in large independent states, then they'll be your allies as long as your dynasty sits on the throne, which can be valuable.

Another advantage is that you can switch to Seniority succession later. That'll unite your family lands in a short period of time, providing you can finesse the change back to Primogeniture to happen when you're playing a character with a lot of land under Primo.
 

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As king of Sweden, one of my vassals has launched a prepared invasion of Denmark. If he wins does he get the king title, making him independent, or is he just going to get the lands, but remain my vassal?
 

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If hes launching it at the kingdom of denmark you;; be out some land if he wins, if hes launching it at the person who owns the land but isnt the king then you get a super vassal
 

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What is love?

Actually, I wanted to ask about pure agnatic (primogeniture) inheritance and how marriages pertain to it. If a character has a daughter who marries, and this character has no other surviving male relatives, does the Kingdom fall to his son-in-law? A different dynasty, but a male inheritor. I've read on wikipedia that sometimes even under pure agnatic succession, Kingdoms were ruled by women, even when there WERE valid men in the line of succession. I have not seen this in CK2. (And I always go to agnatic-cognatic ASAP, so I've never actually faced a situation where with only female heirs, my dynasty would end.)

I'm only wondering because I'm pondering trying to incorporate France and Aquitaine into my Empire, thereby bringing everything West of the Mongols into my domain. They both have weak successions with few living male dynasty members and both have pure agnatic primogeniture succession laws.
 

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What is the point of marrying anyone who isn't your direct heir?
Obviously you can get alliances, but is there any way you can actually expand your empire by marrying people who aren't your heir?

For example, if you marry your brother to a suitor who is heir/title holder, their kid will inherit this title eventually, but he will only be a part of your dynasty, not your lands, so you've effectively not gained anything. Or am I missing something? I understand a lot of this game is benefiting your family name, but surely a lot of this depends on you being able to unite your lands?

At the moment the only use for them seems to be marrying 2nd in line to titles, inheriting their claim, and then pressing the claim for your dynasty member, as that's the only way he/she becomes a vassal of yours.

That's not the only way. Marry somebody to the one 2nd in line, then grant him an equal title to what his wife is about to inherit, once you murder the first in line. You'll only have to kill the husband once succession is guaranteed, so that the lands of his wife are sure to become part of your territory once she dies. Of course, you can also trust in fate, alternatively.
 

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I've read on wikipedia that sometimes even under pure agnatic succession, Kingdoms were ruled by women, even when there WERE valid men in the line of succession. I have not seen this in CK2. (And I always go to agnatic-cognatic ASAP, so I've never actually faced a situation where with only female heirs, my dynasty would end.)

In CK2 Succession Law is always upheld to the letter.
Reality is full of laws being ignored for practical, or underhanded, reasons, but computers can't do that reasonably so the law is the law.
 

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OK so I'm feeling a bit dumb. I've formed Scandinavia, reformed Norse, am Fylkir. I called a GHW for Pomerania to take it in one fell sweep... now I can't declare a new one. Are Great Holy Wars once per lifetime like Subjugation? Should I abuse that with Seniority succession?
 

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About tech... You get tech points by having atleast a duke title -and bigger bonus for King and emperor- and how good your stats are. And some of this is placed into techs directly and another bit is saved up for you to spend where you want. Right? And tech spread means that tech from nieghboring counties -or is it duchies?- spread slowly to you for free, and pace depending on the relative tech level differences. And having your spy study tech in a province makes that province count as a nieghbor to your capital county, thus spreading tech from there. So, what i'm wondering is if it's better to wait for all techs that can spread to you for free and save your own tech points to spend them once there no more spreading? Seems a bit of a waste to spend tech points if you get it for free eventually. So in the long run, is it better to save tech points,and then invest in that which cant be stolen, putting you in tech lead? But in the short run, your low tech might leave you vunreable.

Is it just a trade-off between long and short run?
 

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OK so I'm feeling a bit dumb. I've formed Scandinavia, reformed Norse, am Fylkir. I called a GHW for Pomerania to take it in one fell sweep... now I can't declare a new one. Are Great Holy Wars once per lifetime like Subjugation? Should I abuse that with Seniority succession?

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I was able to call Jihad in 940 since Jerusalem was in Byzantine at that time but after the Sunny took it back, I cant call another Jihad till 1187. Maybe the reason why you could call great holy war early is because both crusade and jihah were available at that time and now you cant because they cant.
 

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I'm playing the game of thrones mod, but this is general question applicable to vanilla too.

When I start a game, depending on what person I select, a lot of the time I seem to have no options at the start of the game. I have no claims on foreign land, no de jure claims I can press or anything of that sort. The only thing I can do is send a council member out to fabricate claims on nearby weak counts, and try and marry my heir into a position where his children will inherit more. Sometimes even that fails, and I find myself marrying my heir and other children to people who are 2nd in line or more for titles, in the hope that they will get a claim and give it to my grandchildren, which I can then press. This obviously takes a long time, especially when my kids are young, so I end up fast forwarding and only having to occasionally do things like throw feasts to keep my vassal opinion up. Does this happen to you guys, or am I missing something obvious which I can be using to expand?

This game is much slower paced than games I am used to, like the total war series, and I really enjoy the thought process and planning, but I'm just curious if I'm taking long because I don't know what I'm doing or not.

Thanks.