She'll auto-revoke one (as you pointed out, she can't stay unlanded and be queen). This is the same thing that happens if you take a King's last personal holding but vassals still have land. All holdings beyond that will have to be taken the old fashioned way, but a new king or queen is sure to get plotters and rebels, so it's only a matter of time before the new ruler ends up either unlanded or in a much stronger position...
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She'll auto-revoke one (as you pointed out, she can't stay unlanded and be queen). This is the same thing that happens if you take a King's last personal holding but vassals still have land. All holdings beyond that will have to be taken the old fashioned way, but a new king or queen is sure to get plotters and rebels, so it's only a matter of time before the new ruler ends up either unlanded or in a much stronger position...
Does anyone know if it's possible for me to vassalise the Hindu holy order (or any of the mercenary bands for that matter).
Currently I am the Empress of Britannia and Queen of Ireland. My two sisters are Queens of Ireland and Scotland respectively. Wales hasn't been created. Everyone of my vassals (including myself), and a big chunk of the British isles are also of the Breton culture.
I read on the wiki that you could grant the holy order a county and then ask them to swear fealty, but so far they won't due to being a different culture, and because I'm not their de jure liege.
The holy order are currently holding the county of Ross, which is part of the Duchy of Moray (which I am holding), which is part of Scotland, which my sister is holding.
I thought I would be able to remove the "not my de jure liege" penalty by becoming the duchess of Moray, but it's still there, so I'm not sure what to do now. I'm thinking it might be impossible to vassalise them due to our different culture groups, but I don't know for sure yet.
Currently I am the Empress of Britannia and Queen of Ireland. My two sisters are Queens of Ireland and Scotland respectively. Wales hasn't been created. Everyone of my vassals (including myself), and a big chunk of the British isles are also of the Breton culture.
I read on the wiki that you could grant the holy order a county and then ask them to swear fealty, but so far they won't due to being a different culture, and because I'm not their de jure liege.
The holy order are currently holding the county of Ross, which is part of the Duchy of Moray (which I am holding), which is part of Scotland, which my sister is holding.
I thought I would be able to remove the "not my de jure liege" penalty by becoming the duchess of Moray, but it's still there, so I'm not sure what to do now. I'm thinking it might be impossible to vassalise them due to our different culture groups, but I don't know for sure yet.
Does anyone know if it's possible for me to vassalise the Hindu holy order (or any of the mercenary bands for that matter).
Currently I am the Empress of Britannia and Queen of Ireland. My two sisters are Queens of Ireland and Scotland respectively. Wales hasn't been created. Everyone of my vassals (including myself), and a big chunk of the British isles are also of the Breton culture.
I read on the wiki that you could grant the holy order a county and then ask them to swear fealty, but so far they won't due to being a different culture, and because I'm not their de jure liege.
The holy order are currently holding the county of Ross, which is part of the Duchy of Moray (which I am holding), which is part of Scotland, which my sister is holding.
I thought I would be able to remove the "not my de jure liege" penalty by becoming the duchess of Moray, but it's still there, so I'm not sure what to do now. I'm thinking it might be impossible to vassalise them due to our different culture groups, but I don't know for sure yet.
Yes you should be able to vassalize them. You are already Empress level which is good. Since you are of a different culture, they will need to be a de jure vassal. So give them the Duchy of Moray (which is de jure Britannia, unless it has drifted) and that should eliminate that penalty. As long as they like you sufficiently then and are not at war, they should accept your offer of vassalization.
There are a few sort of gamey ways of doing it, one way is to grant a kingdom title to a holy order which has a pretty chance of you being considered the heir of said kingdom. Then if you have the king/grandmaster assassinated you'll inherit the holy order along with the kingdom title. It's how I vassalised the zealots
There is a chance you won't be heir though, which means it's probably saver to wait till a family member of yours becomes grandmaster (this can be helped along with a few assassinations) and than grand them a kingdom title to assure you will eventually inherit the kingdom + holy order since the kingdom title will retain it's form of inheritance. Holding a holy order makes it impossible to broker any marriages, so that speeds along killing of a branch of your dynasty, if you want to take the saver route. This obviously also means you can't hold on to the holy order yourself. I've asked above if the Zealots don't normally get the celibate trait, because they surely don't do now, that could be a potential bug with using these 'exploits'.
Oh I think that emperors can with same culture, same religion (obviously) and good relation just ask to vassalise anyway, so perhaps someone of your culture will be grandmaster soon.
There is a chance you won't be heir though, which means it's probably saver to wait till a family member of yours becomes grandmaster (this can be helped along with a few assassinations) and than grand them a kingdom title to assure you will eventually inherit the kingdom + holy order since the kingdom title will retain it's form of inheritance. Holding a holy order makes it impossible to broker any marriages, so that speeds along killing of a branch of your dynasty, if you want to take the saver route. This obviously also means you can't hold on to the holy order yourself. I've asked above if the Zealots don't normally get the celibate trait, because they surely don't do now, that could be a potential bug with using these 'exploits'.
Oh I think that emperors can with same culture, same religion (obviously) and good relation just ask to vassalise anyway, so perhaps someone of your culture will be grandmaster soon.
Yay it worked! Thank you for the help
@drefurion
Thanks for your advice too, although it sounds a bit more complicated (and like you said, gamey), than the way I did it.
What would happen in this scenario?
1. Marry dynasty member (male) to non-dynasty member (female) in a normal marriage.
2. I am a duke
3. non-dynasty female has a claim to a county that is outside of my dejure region and she is not a vassal.
4. I press her claim and she becomes an independent countess.
5. she has a son (of my dynasty) as her heir.
6. She dies
?
I think the title would go to her heir who happens to be my dynasty member, but he would still be an independent count, correct? I guess it would be better to wait till she has an heir of my dynasty then assassinate her so her claim goes to my dynasty member, because then when I press it he will be a vassal, correct?
1. Marry dynasty member (male) to non-dynasty member (female) in a normal marriage.
2. I am a duke
3. non-dynasty female has a claim to a county that is outside of my dejure region and she is not a vassal.
4. I press her claim and she becomes an independent countess.
5. she has a son (of my dynasty) as her heir.
6. She dies
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I think the title would go to her heir who happens to be my dynasty member, but he would still be an independent count, correct? I guess it would be better to wait till she has an heir of my dynasty then assassinate her so her claim goes to my dynasty member, because then when I press it he will be a vassal, correct?
Yes.
Providing the claim is inheritable, it would seem so. Bear in mind that strong claims become weak when they're passed down, so make sure your claimant is 2nd/3rd in line or the holder is under a regency/a girl.
How does ironman work? Does it make a checksum of the local save and keep it at steam server every time it autosaves? Or does it actually upload the whole save file to steam server? I only have mobile phone internet for some days of the week and don't want to use up my data usage.
Thanks.
Yeah I guess trying to use a weak claim so that you gain a dynasty vassal is better than using a strong claim and ending up with a non-vassal (unless they happen to be your heir of course.)
Looks like I will be able to keep my assassins busy.
Sooo, to get started with Great Holy Wars I have to wait for Crusades and Jihads to trigger? So should I take, say, Braunschweig and Mecca to that effect? It's 928 AD...
You need one of them to trigger. So either the crusades or jihads.
Reading the war strategies in the wiki and one I'd never thought of was to assassinate the enemies flank leaders for 50g to weaken their armies. How can you tell who their flank leaders are to kill them?
During battle. Pause, assassinate, proceed...or so i remember.
Thanks. If a vassal builds a retinue-providing building do I as liege gain the same retinue benefits as they do? Or does only the direct owner benefit?
1: EG say as King I have a vassal Merchant Republic and they build a Garrison on a Trade Post in my realm do I get the benefits of the 20, 30 or 50 extra retinue?
2: What if I'm a King and an independent foreign Republic builds a Trade Post and Garrison in my realm do I get any benefit from that?
3: If a vassal noble creates a Training Grounds do I get anything from that?
4: Same for a lower vassal noble (eg a Count which has a Duke and I'm King).
5: A vassal Republics Family Palace - I guess this doesn't provide any benefit or does it?
Holdings is based on entire Realm so I imagine buildings would be too, but are they?
1-2. No. Retinue doesn't belong to the levy and is personal/bound to the characters' title only.
3-4 It increases the vassals levy, thus your max. potential of levy to raise from that vassal. So yes.One vassals' building doesn't change that much though, well depends on the usual rules.
5. Don't remember if family palace belongs to the levy. I believe not, but not sure at all, sorry.
Other source:
Regarding levies in general: http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Levy