They will appear when Crusades are enabled.
Catholic realms can and will fight holy wars against heretic realms, so it will serve to weaken the Christians.
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They will appear when Crusades are enabled.
Catholic realms can and will fight holy wars against heretic realms, so it will serve to weaken the Christians.
Thanks sounds like its a good idea then. Especially since doing regular county conquest wars currently it all helps to drive MA down I guess.
Does low MA cause generally just one particular heresy to arrive or would it be a plethora of heresies causing a religious hodgepodge?
Does low MA cause generally just one particular heresy to arrive or would it be a plethora of heresies causing a religious hodgepodge?
All heresies are equal, so to speak. There's the same probability of a Catholic going Cathar as opposed to Lollard, Waldensian or Fraticelli.
Heresies are more likely to spawn next to heresies of the same type though.
What's a good way to revoke titles from your vassals without invoking negative opinion penalties with your other vassals?
I'm trying to get claims to expand my territory. The most effective way to get a claim seems to be inviting someone with a claim to your court, and then pressing their claim. For this to work the following conditions must be filled:
1. The claim must be at least one step lower than your title IE if you are a duke it must be a count title, if you are a king it must be a duchy title or lower.
2. The person must be a vassal of yours before you press the claim.
Is this correct? If so, for them to be your vassal before you press the claim, you must give away some of your existing land to them. Hence why i'm trying to revoke land from other vassals.
I understand you can also using a council member to fabricate claims, but this seems to take too long, and marrying for titles may be more rewarding, but that seems a long term goal that you have on the back burner while you attempt the above aforementioned, correct?
I'm playing the Game of thrones mod, but I imagine the game mechanics are the same, and I can't seem to view any posts in that dedicated forum. Any help is appreciated.
I'm trying to get claims to expand my territory. The most effective way to get a claim seems to be inviting someone with a claim to your court, and then pressing their claim. For this to work the following conditions must be filled:
1. The claim must be at least one step lower than your title IE if you are a duke it must be a count title, if you are a king it must be a duchy title or lower.
2. The person must be a vassal of yours before you press the claim.
Is this correct? If so, for them to be your vassal before you press the claim, you must give away some of your existing land to them. Hence why i'm trying to revoke land from other vassals.
I understand you can also using a council member to fabricate claims, but this seems to take too long, and marrying for titles may be more rewarding, but that seems a long term goal that you have on the back burner while you attempt the above aforementioned, correct?
I'm playing the Game of thrones mod, but I imagine the game mechanics are the same, and I can't seem to view any posts in that dedicated forum. Any help is appreciated.
One way is to play the game of giving land and then plotting to revoke something after you've pushed it, though this frequently means pissing off and going to war with the person you've just brought in. See under Revoke Vassal Title: http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Plot
You can plot to revoke a county outside a duke's duchy. IIRC this means as a King you can invite a Duchy claimant, grant a County from your demesne, push and win the Duchy and then plot to revoke the County since its outside their duchy. You can then rinse and repeat giving this same county again to claimant after claimant, revoking each time.
They may reject your ultimatum to revoke the county and rebel. I believe (but am not 100%) that then means going to war (you get an option to back down here but I wouldn't) and when you win you automatically revoke that county as part of their surrender. I believe that since they're now classed as a rebel you can get one free-from-tyranny revocation on them which you can use to revoke the duchy that you just fought for (twice). Its now yours to give to whoever you want or keep.
There are also other ways to plot to revoke see that link.
EDIT: A less riskier way to do it is to give away a county in your own capital duchy as you can always plot to revoke any county in your personal capital duchy.
You can plot to revoke a county outside a duke's duchy. IIRC this means as a King you can invite a Duchy claimant, grant a County from your demesne, push and win the Duchy and then plot to revoke the County since its outside their duchy. You can then rinse and repeat giving this same county again to claimant after claimant, revoking each time.
They may reject your ultimatum to revoke the county and rebel. I believe (but am not 100%) that then means going to war (you get an option to back down here but I wouldn't) and when you win you automatically revoke that county as part of their surrender. I believe that since they're now classed as a rebel you can get one free-from-tyranny revocation on them which you can use to revoke the duchy that you just fought for (twice). Its now yours to give to whoever you want or keep.
There are also other ways to plot to revoke see that link.
EDIT: A less riskier way to do it is to give away a county in your own capital duchy as you can always plot to revoke any county in your personal capital duchy.
Thanks for the fast and informative reply.
If i'm playing as a count with a single county, how can you expand? Is getting claims/titles through marriage or hoping for a fabricated claim via your councilor the only option?
I didn't know where to put this so I'll ask my question here.
I have a spectacular game going as a Cathar dynasty and have converted all of my land to the Cathar faith. If I were to convert to vanilla EUIV, will it convert all my provinces and state religion to Cathar?
I have a spectacular game going as a Cathar dynasty and have converted all of my land to the Cathar faith. If I were to convert to vanilla EUIV, will it convert all my provinces and state religion to Cathar?
Depends. There are variant triggers that may make Holy Orders occur sooner. In particular, losing key Christian or Muslim cities (either conquered by infidels or the current owner converting) may cause Holy Orders to form earlier than expected.
Generally it is advantageous.
Increases the revolt chance within Catholic realms. Increases tension between liege/vassal and between different vassals when they view each other as heretics. If the heresy spreads far enough it can become a dominant religion which means holy orders flip (which could then deprive Catholicism of any holy orders). Also some heresies are crappier (no special mechanics, no Crusades, etc.) so allowing a weaker one (Waldensian or Lollard) to be dominant makes for a much weaker opponent.
These are the main ways.
If bordering infidel states, you may be able to holy war them, though winning the war as a count may be hard unless you have access to holy orders, lots of money, or powerful allies.
You could also theoretically ask for an invasion from your religious head and take an entire kingdom, but once again it may be hard to win as a count.
If you plot to revoke and then they refuse then:
1. You are considered to have declared the war. That means ticking war score is in favor of them. And if you have a truce, you lose half your prestige but you do not get the truce breaker diplomacy/opinion penalties. So don't keep plotting to revoke against the same guy unless you are willing to lose most of your prestige.
2. If you win the war, you successfully revoke and imprison the guy. He is considered a "traitor" so you are then allowed an additional revoke (or vassal retractage). So essentially you can strip two titles from the guy through the whole process.
What I often do is invite the claimant to my court and then give him a barony (or if necessary a city or temple) and then press the claim.
Depending on your religious situation, you can also easily revoke titles if you have Medium+ CA and you are invoking infidel titles. If you have Rajas of India, changing religions is trivially easy (just move the capital to a province with another religion, and spend 1000 piety to change religion), which then lets you revoke most titles.
1. I didn't know the title could be as small as a baron, I thought it had to be a count.
2. What do you do when you have no titles to give them? At the moment I'm marrying women with claims into my bloodline and then waiting for them to have kids and pressing the claim then, but this obviously takes a long time.
3. What is the mechanic for plotting to revoke titles? I never seem to have that option.
1. Yeah, they just need to be a vassal - baron level works fine. And keeps them weaker.
2. Well if you have no titles to make them your vassal (and they are unlikely to accept an offer of vassalization if they are independent), then usually you won't want to press their claim yet. Yeah, waiting to develop female claims can take a long time since normally you really need to wait for the next generation. An exception is if you can get Absolute Cognatic (Basque or Cathar realistically, Messalian probably ain't gonna happen) in which case you can land the woman and then press the claim.
For female claims, what you can do is marry the claimant to a vassal of yours (of the same rank or higher). Wait for them to have a kid. When they do, press the woman's claim. She will not be your vassal yet. But now assassinate the husband (who is your vassal) so the child inherits. Then assassinate the woman. You need to make sure the child inherits the title within your realm first, but this way the new title gets incorporated into your realm.
3. You can revoke titles through the diplomacy options, but that usually results in an opinion malus with vassals. The Intrigue tab also has plots available, which may include revocation plots. You can't do it if you are Content. You can generally revoke titles if they have multiple counties, some of which are not de jure. So any Count with multiple titles can have something revoked (usually not the first one they got, which may or may not be the "primary"). For Dukes and Kings, you can't revoke anything that is in their de jure domain but you can revoke things outside of it. In addition, you need to get enough plot power - at least 80%, which may not be easy if the guy is well liked.
You need to register your Crusader Kings II game to your forum account. Go to "My Games" at the top, and enter your CK2 CD-key. Once you've done this you'll be able to see and post in the forums associated with CK2, such as User Modifications (like the GoT mod) and Tech Support.
Thanks for a great post.
What I've found to be a good method is to marry any male of my dynasty to a female claimant, make sure they have a child (of my dynasty obviously) and then press their claim. After this I can kill the wife off if needs be to use the male again on a different claimant.
Also I didn't know that they had to have 2 counties for you to be able to plot a revocation, that explains a lot.
Now that I've learnt the basics of the game I'm really beginning to enjoy how much you have to scheme and plan to get titles, really puts it aside from other war games where you just bum-rush the map with powerful armies.
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After I posted I looked around and realised I could do that, thanks none-the-less!
If it is a ward who just got the Content trait, you should have the option to remove it.
If it is an adult, there is no easy way. If an adult has more than 5 personality traits, then over time they are likely to randomly lose one of them, which could be Content (but no guarantee). Unfortunately, nowadays there is no easy way to get extra personality traits (in older versions it was trivially easy to get Diligent from Hunts and Gregarious from Feasts but those days are long gone). Battle can get you Brave/Craven or Patient/Wroth.
Also, there is rarely an event where someone in your court (sometimes your spouse) convinces you to be more ambitious, and if I recall that can cause you to lose Content (or become Ambitious).
I do not believe Content is a "negative trait" such that you can get rid of it as a Buddhist.
Is it possible to turn down CA from High to medium and but still keep Primo succession in a Kingdom?
Another quick question with regards to laws.
Is this correct?
Feudal laws affect your vasals who are earls/counts
City laws affect any cities/castles/churchs you own yourself
bishop laws affect any clergymen who are your vassals?
Or is that completely wrong?
Is this correct?
Feudal laws affect your vasals who are earls/counts
City laws affect any cities/castles/churchs you own yourself
bishop laws affect any clergymen who are your vassals?
Or is that completely wrong?
Feudal laws effect feudal type rulers, who hold castles, and are centered on dynastic successions. Feudal rulers are more likely to press claims, expand, and become powerful, and compose of most of the world. City rulers are the holders of city-type baronies and Republics. They are less likely to press claims, and are effected by city laws. Bishop laws effect all Theocratic rulers.