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Sorry, this is more of a small technical question than a gameplay one, but I didn't want to post it in bug reports because I'm not sure if it's just my Steam, or something with the game.

Has anyone been getting a blank menu box whenever they try to boot up CK2? Something like this: http://s18.postimg.org/s0m2vaa1l/image1.jpg

It's been happening to me quite a bit lately and I'm not sure if this means there's something wrong with my game, or something else.
 

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Register your game; there's a tech support sub forum exactly for these questions. :)
 

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Sorry, this is more of a small technical question than a gameplay one, but I didn't want to post it in bug reports because I'm not sure if it's just my Steam, or something with the game.

Has anyone been getting a blank menu box whenever they try to boot up CK2? Something like this: http://s18.postimg.org/s0m2vaa1l/image1.jpg

It's been happening to me quite a bit lately and I'm not sure if this means there's something wrong with my game, or something else.

I have! I'll make the post.

But I wonder whether it might be something to do with my antivirus. Are you using AVG or a VPN?

Mine looks like this:

yjo5k.jpg


If anyone else has this problem, I've reported the issue here; I'd be grateful if you could chime in there.
 
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I have! I'll make the post.
But I wonder whether it might be something to do with my antivirus. Are you using AVG or a VPN?

Thanks.
I doubt it's my antivirus. I've had it running constantly on my computer since I first installed the game, and I've only been getting the issue with the blank menu in the last week or so. Anyway, we'll see what the tech people have to say.

Register your game; there's a tech support sub forum exactly for these questions. :)

Thanks. :)
Just wanted to check first whether anyone else was experiencing it, or if it was just something I had to sort myself.
 

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I have! I'll make the post.

But I wonder whether it might be something to do with my antivirus. Are you using AVG or a VPN?

Mine looks like this:

yjo5k.jpg


If anyone else has this problem, I've reported the issue here; I'd be grateful if you could chime in there.

I don't think that its a bug as they are having new launcher in the public beta versions that does not use internet site in it so they most likely stopped keeping that site or simply the site is currently down.
 

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The Slavic pagans, whom you've probably been fighting as the HRE, have a large defensive bonus in their home territories (i.e. counties with their religion), but also you will suffer from a much higher attrition rate over there. Add to that new attrition rules where if you're out of supply attrition starts to rise, this might have caused your battles to be lost. Past the year 900 you might try do send missionaries (you will loose the CB but they will become a weak Catholic kingdom for you to conquer) after that technology will slowly offset the defensive boni.

That would explain why I was fighting Pomerian ( cant spell that area but its right above poland ) They send me a message saying that they have become catholic and ever since they have stayed catholic. Of course I was about to win the war and claim their lands and it auto ends because my reason to fight them was invalid ( holy war Cb ). But yeah that makes sense they became catholic randomly and thus my war with them ended. Thank you for the information. Makes sense that I forgot the attrition was changed and I had to walk though poland to fight them. Yep makes sense now Thank you very much !

Thank you Tom013 for the information as well !
 

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Voodoo covered most of it, and it probably explains your problem. I will add that the attrition penalty goes away completely at Military Org tech 4, so that's a big one.

I also want to add that there are no REFORMED pagans at ANY start. They are always unreformed pagans at start if they exist, and almost all starts have some. In 1066, you still have a little bit of Norse (Erik the Heathen and some of his vassals), Slavic, Tengri (quite a ways east at this point ... though the Mongols will bring it back later), and I think even one or two up in Finland? Later on, those in eastern Europe disappear (Norse quickly) but you still end up with some Tengri up to and a ways into the Mongol invasions.

Ty for the information !
 

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That would explain why I was fighting Pomerian ( cant spell that area but its right above poland ) They send me a message saying that they have become catholic and ever since they have stayed catholic. Of course I was about to win the war and claim their lands and it auto ends because my reason to fight them was invalid ( holy war Cb ). But yeah that makes sense they became catholic randomly and thus my war with them ended. Thank you for the information. Makes sense that I forgot the attrition was changed and I had to walk though poland to fight them. Yep makes sense now Thank you very much !

Thank you Tom013 for the information as well !

Fun fact: the AI will sometimes decide to convert when it's an unreformed Pagan targeted by Holy War, so it's not so much random as a repeat of what Lithuania did IRL, as it was facing the Teutonic Knights while being the last (openly) Slavic-Pagan realm in Europe.
 

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What is the Succession Law for the Empire. Sounds like the Heir you are looking at might be for the personal holdings of the emperor and not for the empire itself. From what it sounds like it might be Elective since they are all unrelated to each other. Although I could be wrong about that. Did the Empires succession law change by any chance recently ?. Because it sounds like the emperors Heir is going to get his fathers personal holdings but not the empire .

The succession law for the empire is and always has been agnatic gavelkind. I honestly have no idea what this could be. Is it perhaps a known glitch?
 

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The succession law for the empire is and always has been agnatic gavelkind. I honestly have no idea what this could be. Is it perhaps a known glitch?

It sounds like Elective to me. That those were the people that had the most votes among the dukes. Another strange thing is that normally the Byzantine Empire is Primgentive which means that the first born son or child ( if female it will last until the ruler has a son and then that son is heir I think ) is the heir. What it sounds like to me is that it was changed to elective as these people are unknown to you. Now the question is can you choose a Nomination since you are a Duke you have that power to elect the next leader. If not than it would seem it could be a glitch or its Gravekind and those are his kids ?. How many kids does the emperor have and are any of them listed ?.
 

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It sounds like Elective to me. That those were the people that had the most votes among the dukes. Another strange thing is that normally the Byzantine Empire is Primgentive which means that the first born son or child ( if female it will last until the ruler has a son and then that son is heir I think ) is the heir. What it sounds like to me is that it was changed to elective as these people are unknown to you. Now the question is can you choose a Nomination since you are a Duke you have that power to elect the next leader. If not than it would seem it could be a glitch or its Gravekind and those are his kids ?. How many kids does the emperor have and are any of them listed ?.

It is not elective. Loading the game and checking I can see that it is gavelkind. The byzantines can only get primgentive if they have high crown authority or up. As of 867 they only have medium. The current (random) heirs have shaky relation to the royal family at best, im talking like grandson to the previous emperor. To be honest the succession has been a bit strange this whole game.
 

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If you don't mind, I'll put my pedant hat on and say that Lithuania was Baltic, rather than Slavic pagan.

Not at all, you're quite right, my sincerest apologies. My brain must've made a jump from Teuton Knights - Poles - Slavic and thus the mistake.
 

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It is not elective. Loading the game and checking I can see that it is gavelkind. The byzantines can only get primgentive if they have high crown authority or up. As of 867 they only have medium. The current (random) heirs have shaky relation to the royal family at best, im talking like grandson to the previous emperor. To be honest the succession has been a bit strange this whole game.

In 867, they START on agnatic-cognatic primogeniture so agnatic gavelkind is already a great departure from the 867 norm. If you haven't done so (though given the time between posts, I can't imagine you haven't), close out and reload. Sometimes succession gets incorrectly computed and it will recalculate on load.

Other than that, I can't say. I've never heard of a succession "bug" quite like what you're saying you see. Gavelkind itself has some parameters that can be unexpected for people, but if there is ANY son remaining, it should go to him. Always. It doesn't descend through the dead eldest child first like primogeniture.
 

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In 867, they START on agnatic-cognatic primogeniture so agnatic gavelkind is already a great departure from the 867 norm. If you haven't done so (though given the time between posts, I can't imagine you haven't), close out and reload. Sometimes succession gets incorrectly computed and it will recalculate on load.

Other than that, I can't say. I've never heard of a succession "bug" quite like what you're saying you see. Gavelkind itself has some parameters that can be unexpected for people, but if there is ANY son remaining, it should go to him. Always. It doesn't descend through the dead eldest child first like primogeniture.

You are correct, I started over and saw the succession laws correctly loaded this time. It had been messed up from the start and only gotten worse.