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Is there some kind of mechanism preventing the AI from accepting defeat even with a negative 100% warscore? AI Byzantium has been fighting a "lowered crown laws" war and has been sitting on 100% positive warscore for 12 years. In the meanwhile it's been devastated by invasions and lost Anatolia, Sicily and Lukania to the muslims.

Even you can't surrender if there is second war going on of your titles where the attacker is occupying your lands. So thats most likely whats happening Byz can't surrender as some areas are in control of the third party attackers who want something else from the Byz and if he could surrender to the civil war it might cause auto end to the other wars. Its there so AI or the player can't use the system to their advance by ending wars by surrendering to another that would not be that devastating than losing to outside attacker.

It could be bug only if you yourself could surrender in the same situation and only way of knowing that would be to load up as the Byzantium in the save and see if you can.
 

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umm, what are ALL of the uses state attributes have?
could be helpful on the smart spouse/powerful spouse dilemma
 

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umm, what are ALL of the uses state attributes have?
could be helpful on the smart spouse/powerful spouse dilemma

State attributes affect things which are outside your own court and domain.
Also dont forget that half of your spouse's stewardship is added to yours for calculating the max domain size.
 

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Even you can't surrender if there is second war going on of your titles where the attacker is occupying your lands. So thats most likely whats happening Byz can't surrender as some areas are in control of the third party attackers who want something else from the Byz and if he could surrender to the civil war it might cause auto end to the other wars. Its there so AI or the player can't use the system to their advance by ending wars by surrendering to another that would not be that devastating than losing to outside attacker.

It could be bug only if you yourself could surrender in the same situation and only way of knowing that would be to load up as the Byzantium in the save and see if you can.

Thank you, your answer is exactly what happened. Sucks to be Byzantium but hey, historically accurate game.

Another question: during this mayhem I (king of Poland) managed to push my cousin's claim on Bulgaria, now he's a king.

Now I want his Bulgaria to disappear into my Poland.

I can think of having him elected under elective monarchy as the future king of Poland then, as king of both countries, destroy the kingdom of Bulgaria. Any alternative? He has horrible stats and traits...
 

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Good to see it resolved! :)

THey're not bugged, but the way they appear opens some strange possibilities, like this.

Since they first appear as Coutiers, they can have accidents, have "accidents", get sick, depressed, whatever.

Yeah, my point was actually that have I missed their supposed spawnings already, date-wise? For example, if the time frame for Seljuk is 95-970, and I am in the 1030s, he won't definitely show up.


If neither of them shows up, I may have to start a new game... I really wanted them to show up shake things a little bit. I don't have chance against massive Pratihara blob. They changed to Jainism, and that's a little OP to me...
 

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Is the succession of the Patriarchs (Orthodox, Nestorian, Coptic Pope...) based on a new randomly generated character, or are they actually selected from among existing characters? If purely random, can they still be part of existing dynasties, or will they always be lowborn?
 

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Anyway, are there any highly recommended mods for this game.

There are a number of popular mods, so it really depends on what you want. Total conversion? Game of Thrones is probably the top there, but the Elder Scrolls and Middle Earth mods have their adherents as well. Lux Invicta probably falls in this category, too, though it's more of an alternate history than a fantasy conversion. Major overhauls? Well, there's CK2+ which aims to be a CK vanilla ++ experience. And the historical immersion mod that draws from a bunch of smaller mods to enhance historical authenticity. And there are lots of other smaller mods that are quite popular. And I've inevitably missed a bunch more because there are so many, and so many of them do have strong followings.

Thank you, your answer is exactly what happened. Sucks to be Byzantium but hey, historically accurate game.

Another question: during this mayhem I (king of Poland) managed to push my cousin's claim on Bulgaria, now he's a king.

Now I want his Bulgaria to disappear into my Poland.

I can think of having him elected under elective monarchy as the future king of Poland then, as king of both countries, destroy the kingdom of Bulgaria. Any alternative? He has horrible stats and traits...

Depending on how close he is in lines of succession, you may be able to assassinate your way on to the throne. Or you could marry your way back onto his throne. Or change to seniority (rather than elective) and eventually you'll become King of Bulgaria because he'll be the most senior member of your dynasty. That's relatively reliable, though not reliably fast.
 

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Depending on how close he is in lines of succession, you may be able to assassinate your way on to the throne. Or you could marry your way back onto his throne. Or change to seniority (rather than elective) and eventually you'll become King of Bulgaria because he'll be the most senior member of your dynasty. That's relatively reliable, though not reliably fast.[/QUOTE]


Going seniority is awesome advice, thank you.

In this game already went elective-10 years of rule-destruction of title. Wouldn't do it again, quite tedious and very risky everytime the king catches the flu. Oh well, lesson learned.
 

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Going seniority is awesome advice, thank you.
Or not. You keep getting old geezers inhering the title and can't get the 10 years of reign needed to change it back.
 

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Is the succession of the Patriarchs (Orthodox, Nestorian, Coptic Pope...) based on a new randomly generated character, or are they actually selected from among existing characters? If purely random, can they still be part of existing dynasties, or will they always be lowborn?

I am 98% certain that they are randomly-generated, and hence lowborn/made-up dynasty.
 

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Does your or your wife's realm have high/absolute CA? Are both sons born by your current wife? Those are the only reasons I can think of.

France has high crown authority and both of our realms are part of this and yes both are sons born of her.

Is this some sort of weird bug because of high CA someone can't inheret from both lands?
 

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France has high crown authority and both of our realms are part of this and yes both are sons born of her.

Is this some sort of weird bug because of high CA someone can't inheret from both lands?

Both realms are vassals of France ? Is one outside dejure france ? If so, there you have it.
 

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Actually just realised she isn't actually part of the french kingdom(though the land is de jure). So because he's also heir to someone outside of france, even although he's a member of my family not hers, he can't inheret my land? That seems odd.

Edit: I gave my first born some of my land and this still didn't fix it :angry:
 

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Actually just realised she isn't actually part of the french kingdom(though the land is de jure). So because he's also heir to someone outside of france, even although he's a member of my family not hers, he can't inheret my land? That seems odd.

Edit: I gave my first born some of my land and this still didn't fix it :angry:

Neither you nor your wife died yet ? I'm pretty sure the first son will inherit the land of who dies first. The way it displays is probably just theory.
If you are not ironman, you could save, kill yourself or your wife (via console) and see what happens and then just reload.
 

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Didn't want to gamble my land against a theory so I divorced her and went to war for my son(and now vassals claim). After winning my heir has corrected itself. Only now the (insert profanity of choice) holds more land than me and doesn't even have his first chin hair.
 

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Didn't want to gamble my land against a theory ..

That's why i suggested to save, kill one of yours by the console and see what happens, unless you are playing ironman of course.
You know about the console and the kill charID command ?