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Hi, few questions here :

1-What does the "pre-reformed" means for Hellenic religion ?
http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Religion#List_of_Religions
2-Does sons of concubines count in your republic to calculate the max number of trade post one can have.
3-it seems as serene doge of sicily (capital in amalfi) that I can't leave napoli to the doe of capoue, my vassal ?

Thanks all

1) Hellenic is not really designed as a playable religion but meant for history files only. As a result, it has some weirdness where it has some downsides like an un-reformed faith but is unreformable.
2) Should, yes, if they are adults in your court, just like any dynasty member.
3) I'm not sure what you're asking here.

What are all traits that can get you forced out of Factions by your liege (or that you can force your vassals out of factions with if you are the liege, of course)? Honest, Just, Kind, what else?

Yikes. I don't have a full list, but I'll try... cowardly (intimidate), lustful & homosexual (blackmail), just (obligate)... I think a number of the negative traits are blackmail-able.

This is the best list I found before but I don't know how up-to-date it is (credit to Kamoflaro):
Countering traits: Brave, Wroth, Proud, Zealous
Blackmail auto success traits: Homosexual, Impaler, Lustful, Drunkard, Hedonist, Syphilis
Legalism auto success traits: Just, Honest, Trusting, Content, Kind
Threaten auto success traits: Craven, Paranoid, Cynical, Humble, Slothful

("Ask Nicely" CAN succeed, by the way. It's just never a given)
 

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1) Hellenic is not really designed as a playable religion but meant for history files only. As a result, it has some weirdness where it has some downsides like an un-reformed faith but is unreformable.
2) Should, yes, if they are adults in your court, just like any dynasty member.
3) I'm not sure what you're asking here.
1/ mmmhm okay
2/ Great
3/ Well. Situation is, I played with the republic of Amalfi, and got the king level with sicily.
I owned Amalfi (capital), Napoli and the ducal level in amalfi. The ducal level doge in capoue is one of my vassal.

I can't :
-Grant Napoli to any Baron of the province as usual.
-Give Napoli to his de-jure liege, my vassal doge of Capoue

I don't see where I get it wrong. The province of Napoli is visible within the titles I own. But This is the only one I can't manage to see in diplomatic options.
:wacko:

Thanks angain, and sorry for approximations with my english
 

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1/ mmmhm okay
2/ Great
3/ Well. Situation is, I played with the republic of Amalfi, and got the king level with sicily.
I owned Amalfi (capital), Napoli and the ducal level in amalfi. The ducal level doge in capoue is one of my vassal.

I can't :
-Grant Napoli to any Baron of the province as usual.
-Give Napoli to his de-jure liege, my vassal doge of Capoue

I don't see where I get it wrong. The province of Napoli is visible within the titles I own. But This is the only one I can't manage to see in diplomatic options.
:wacko:

Thanks angain, and sorry for approximations with my english

Ah, now I get it. You're king of Sicily and your de jure capital is Napoli. Last I checked, you couldn't give away your de jure capital as a Republic. This is probably what is getting you now.
 

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The CK2 wiki says this: "All religions with a parent religion are heresies. Since Patch 2.0, if an heresy becomes more prevalent than the parent religion (5 provinces more), it will become the new orthodoxy, and the parent religion will become an heresy."

Is there any other trigger? I have a game where Lollard and Cathar were both eventually significantly larger than Catholicism, and no such thing happened.
 

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The CK2 wiki says this: "All religions with a parent religion are heresies. Since Patch 2.0, if an heresy becomes more prevalent than the parent religion (5 provinces more), it will become the new orthodoxy, and the parent religion will become an heresy."

Is there any other trigger? I have a game where Lollard and Cathar were both eventually significantly larger than Catholicism, and no such thing happened.

I believe it also requires the game to be played with the Sons of Abraham DLC enabled.
 

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Do feasts now give the Just trait, the way they did pre 2.1? I've been trying without any luck so far, and would appreciate a headsup on whether I'm wasting my time and gold, or if I'm just having bad luck/too many existing traits.
 

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Do feasts now give the Just trait, the way they did pre 2.1? I've been trying without any luck so far, and would appreciate a headsup on whether I'm wasting my time and gold, or if I'm just having bad luck/too many existing traits.

You can get it from the event where a guest kills one of your servants. Its more likely if said guest is Cruel and/or Wroth.
 

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Is it worth it to purposefully avoid becoming emperor to absorb kingdoms dejure borders into one super kingdom?
It depends.

Biggest point against waiting: Emperor gets to keep two extra holdings before going over demesne limit compared to a king.

Biggest point for waiting: You can add duchies to your main kingdom, which gives you a small bonus to how many troops you can call from that land, I think.

In short, probably not worth it.

Now I typically wait, primarily because I like to see my main kingdom reach a certain size on the map, not because there is a meaningful benefit.
 
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Is it worth it to purposefully avoid becoming emperor to absorb kingdoms dejure borders into one super kingdom?

Biggest point against waiting: Emperor gets to keep two extra holdings before going over demesne limit compared to a king.

Biggest point for waiting: You can add duchies to your main kingdom, which gives you a small bonus to how many troops you can call from that land. edit - I think.

edit - In short, probably not worth it.

Now I typically wait, primarily because I like to see my main kingdom reach a certain size on the map, not because there is a meaningful benefit.

It depends on gameplay. I like keeping all the titles, but if I hold a Kingdom title someone wants, they get itchy about it, so instead, I let it drift into my primary kingdom and then create it as a titular title.

It's also worth noting that an Empire cannot drift individual Duchies, so if you want to drift Normandy or Holstein into Britannia/HRE you'll have to get it into a kingdom first.
 

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It depends on gameplay. I like keeping all the titles, but if I hold a Kingdom title someone wants, they get itchy about it, so instead, I let it drift into my primary kingdom and then create it as a titular title.

It's also worth noting that an Empire cannot drift individual Duchies, so if you want to drift Normandy or Holstein into Britannia/HRE you'll have to get it into a kingdom first.

What triggers drifting in the first place though?
 

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If I'm Norse culture/religion and hold a county in France but convert to Catholicism but remain Norse culture will I still get Norman melting pot event? Also what year does the event usually trigger or is it random? If anyone also knows the event number to trigger it could they post it?

Thanks