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Yes, it is de jure drift; at the moment they're controlled by Andalusia and part of the Andalusian realm, but only after those 100 years will those lands become de jure part of the Kingdom of Andalusia forever more.

Have to be whole duchies, though, to drift at all into a Kingdom... and whole Kingdoms to drift into an Empire directly.
 

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Have to be whole duchies, though, to drift at all into a Kingdom... and whole Kingdoms to drift into an Empire directly.

I am holding the kingdom of Bulgaria and Georgia (I am RE) and no such counter appeared. What gives?

Edit: Ballocks ignore it those are already dejure :D

Edit2: Is there a way to get past the "I am a king'' malus when you try to vassalise someone as an emperor?

I have already maxed our relations, we are of the same dynasty, helped him in a war and the bugger wont accept. I dont want to kill his children in order to inherit, the number of child murders is haunting me.
 
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Edit2: Is there a way to get past the "I am a king'' malus when you try to vassalise someone as an emperor?

I have already maxed our relations, we are of the same dynasty, helped him in a war and the bugger wont accept. I dont want to kill his children in order to inherit, the number of child murders is haunting me.

Sorry Pilot, but you've been wasting your time. Kings will never accept vassalization (you cannot overcome that penalty). You'll have to take enough of his land to usurp the title, then the dukes should accept vassalization (unless they're another religion)
 

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Sorry Pilot, but you've been wasting your time. Kings will never accept vassalization (you cannot overcome that penalty). You'll have to take enough of his land to usurp the title, then the dukes should accept vassalization (unless they're another religion)

Sigh....Pedokiller trait again....
 

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Which 1066 start, in your experience, yields a more unstable England in the AI's hands?

I haven't done it much recently, but for a long while it was definitely Stamford Bridge. You're likely to get at least a Norman King and sometimes a Norman King followed by a Norwegian king, each of which will have to deal with the Breton in Cornwall, Anglo-Saxons (some of which likely have Kingdom claims), and, in the case of the Norwegian king, potentially angry, newly appointed Normans (and if William's one of them, he too has a claim on the kingdom).
 

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Got a notification that one of my vassals is going to inherit lands and move them out of the kingdom. When I tracked the heir, he is marked as heir to my duchy as well as the host of x (cant remember the name). Hosts are event armies of adventurers aren't they?

What happens in this instance? Do I need to revoke him?
 

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Got a notification that one of my vassals is going to inherit lands and move them out of the kingdom. When I tracked the heir, he is marked as heir to my duchy as well as the host of x (cant remember the name). Hosts are event armies of adventurers aren't they?

What happens in this instance? Do I need to revoke him?

It depends on what lands, if any, the host has taken. If the rank in your realm is higher than that which the host holds it isn't a problem, if they are the same it could be depending on the order people die, if the host is higher then you have a problem (assuming you don't have high crown authority applying to their holding(s)).
 

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It depends on what lands, if any, the host has taken. If the rank in your realm is higher than that which the host holds it isn't a problem, if they are the same it could be depending on the order people die, if the host is higher then you have a problem (assuming you don't have high crown authority applying to their holding(s)).

To add to this, if the host loses (or already lost), it's really not going to matter. I don't know if it's still in the game, but there was a bug that kept the "heir to X host" around even after the host disbanded. It occasionally caused you to see the "inheritance" warning, but it never would have any impact.
 

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To add to this, if the host loses (or already lost), it's really not going to matter. I don't know if it's still in the game, but there was a bug that kept the "heir to X host" around even after the host disbanded. It occasionally caused you to see the "inheritance" warning, but it never would have any impact.

He must have lost because I dont see it anymore. What I dont understand is this: Is it possible this Vassal of mine to inherit the army?

From speculation this story must go 150 years back. I had married one of my then characters daughters to the king of West Francia. Something managed to wipe them off (that something later disintegrated to France, Aquitaine and a hundred other duchies) while the Franks came to my curt. Over the years I landed them and I bred out the Frankiness turning them into Greeks. I assume that host was of some other long distant relative that wanted to take the throne...Quite an interesting turn of events...

EDIT: And ofc another Question: I have managed to install my son which is also my heir, as a despot to Burgundy. Now I have 2 options: Either I go into a succession war to install my second son as the king and vassalise him, or go into a succession war and install again my second son, implementing medium crown authority.

Since my first son is already my heir, he will inherit both the crown and the empire right? So going to war is unnecessary or I miss something?
What will the nation be in this instance Byzantium or Burgundy?
 
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He must have lost because I dont see it anymore. What I dont understand is this: Is it possible this Vassal of mine to inherit the army?

From speculation this story must go 150 years back. I had married one of my then characters daughters to the king of West Francia. Something managed to wipe them off (that something later disintegrated to France, Aquitaine and a hundred other duchies) while the Franks came to my curt. Over the years I landed them and I bred out the Frankiness turning them into Greeks. I assume that host was of some other long distant relative that wanted to take the throne...Quite an interesting turn of events...

EDIT: And ofc another Question: I have managed to install my son which is also my heir, as a despot to Burgundy. Now I have 2 options: Either I go into a succession war to install my second son as the king and vassalise him, or go into a succession war and install again my second son, implementing medium crown authority.

Since my first son is already my heir, he will inherit both the crown and the empire right? So going to war is unnecessary or I miss something?
What will the nation be in this instance Byzantium or Burgundy?

Your first son will inherit both and be Byzantine Emperor assuming the inheritance laws in the two nations are the same and (if elective) your heir is top vote getter in both. If not you'll get a lost title warning with what title will be lost and who will get it.

I don't understand what you are asking about with the first part of your edit though.
 

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My position on the King's Council prevents me from assigning myself as my childrens' tutor. So, each time one of my children hits adolescence, I resign from the Council, appoint myself as his/her tutor, then make it an ambition to be reassigned to the Council (which typically has taken a couple of months at most). This process seems a bit weird to me... I mean, either I should be able to assign myself as tutor while being on the Council (to 'send for my child'), or I shouldn't be able to return to a Council position while educating my child at all. Am I missing something?

"Sorry my liege, I must quit the Council to go pick up my son! You'll receive a new application from me tomorrow."
 

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Your first son will inherit both and be Byzantine Emperor assuming the inheritance laws in the two nations are the same and (if elective) your heir is top vote getter in both. If not you'll get a lost title warning with what title will be lost and who will get it.

I don't understand what you are asking about with the first part of your edit though.

Pretty much what you answered me covers it. I was asking what was the best course of action, but since he will inherit both (empire and Burgundy) it got me covered. Thanks.
 

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I just raised the crown authority of my empire to High and now I'm dealing with the -30 "increased crown authority" opinion penalty. How long does it last? (Please don't tell me a lifetime... I just inherited the empire with this guy).
 

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I just raised the crown authority of my empire to High and now I'm dealing with the -30 "increased crown authority" opinion penalty. How long does it last? (Please don't tell me a lifetime... I just inherited the empire with this guy).

5 years. Changing succession law (which I guess is the reason for increasing CA) gives -20 and lasts 10 years. Just imprison a count and release to get a quick +10.
 

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Could someone please explain to me why the Event Spawn Troops 'completely' ignore the attrition/province supply limits?

I know they're supposed to usually be more of a fervour-type of troops, living off the holy spirit and/or rage/lust/wealth and as so I could see them being very resistant to the effects of attrition but when I see 80k(+ ~15k in surrounding provinces) Sunni Bedouins camping in a province that can support just over 10k troops.. Yeah.

I used to be that guy who was cynical about the OP:ness of the Hordes etc. but this has truly opened my eyes. This is pretty.. bad. Just.. bad.