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Been a while, but I can't recall Grandsons of the inheriting son getting strong claims on all Empire and Kingdom tier titles before. What's the deal?


Related to this, under primogeniture, has anyone had a great-grandson inherit? Is it possible? (It used to be that the game recognised him as a mere kinsman, and that your titles would go to one of your closer heirs).
 

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Related to this, under primogeniture, has anyone had a great-grandson inherit? Is it possible? (It used to be that the game recognised him as a mere kinsman, and that your titles would go to one of your closer heirs).

I've never been in position for this to happen but just yesterday my grandson through my oldest son inherited over his 4 uncles so the system works at least that far...
 

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1. My mother has a weak claim on the Kingdom of Lotharinga and I killed the current King of Loth. the new King is 3m and thus it is a regency, why cant I press my mothers claim ? Im a female ruler if that is of importance.
2. Incase my mother would be crowned Queen. She has only my sister and me as children and is celibate. Both of us have two Kingdoms. Who would inherit?
3. Can I see genderlaws of another Kingdom somehow ?
 

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1. My mother has a weak claim on the Kingdom of Lotharinga and I killed the current King of Loth. the new King is 3m and thus it is a regency, why cant I press my mothers claim ? Im a female ruler if that is of importance.
2. Incase my mother would be crowned Queen. She has only my sister and me as children and is celibate. Both of us have two Kingdoms. Who would inherit?
3. Can I see genderlaws of another Kingdom somehow ?

1. Does Lotharingia have agnatic succession?
2. The eldest, provided the Kingdom is Gavelkind or Primogeniture.
3. Go to the King/Queen's page, go to the icon for the Kingdom underneath their portrait, and it'll tell you their succession law.
 

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1. My mother has a weak claim on the Kingdom of Lotharinga and I killed the current King of Loth. the new King is 3m and thus it is a regency, why cant I press my mothers claim ? Im a female ruler if that is of importance.
2. Incase my mother would be crowned Queen. She has only my sister and me as children and is celibate. Both of us have two Kingdoms. Who would inherit?
3. Can I see genderlaws of another Kingdom somehow ?

  1. Is it agnatic succession? Women cannot have their claims pressed against Agnatic titles, even in regency. If she were to die, you (male) could press a weak claim if you inherited it.
  2. If it's agnatic or agnatic-cognatic, you, the only son, should inherit. If it's true-cognatic, your sister would inherit if older.
  3. Hover over the title shield on the title holder.

... and the answer is already posted above...
 

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Is there a way, other than war, to get the baronies held by Holy Orders not of your religion? The Knights of Calatrava have seven baronies in Spain and I really don't want to take 35 years to get rid of them...
 

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Not unless you have the title yourself. Though from what I find the AI tends to switch from agnatic to agnatic-cognatic if they can. But I may be wrong about that.

I'm not sure what the logic is here, but they certainly don't ALWAYS change it from agnatic to agnatic-cognatic. Maybe the AI is coded to do it "intelligently" (i.e. if they have mostly daughters or limited male heirs, like the player might)?
 

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I stopped playing just before RoI when a bug made my savegames crash, so figured I'd just wait and actually play the myriad of other games I've got on tap and have been ignoring during the meantime when I heard about the upcoming DLC needing me to start over anyhow. Now, onto my question!

Am I simply mis-remembering things or did the diplomacy map view use to have the actual opinion of the vassal ruler of that county pop up conveniently when you hovered over it? Or did I just do this via the relative color of green or is there something else I've forgotten in the meantime?

It's been seriously bugging me like crazy to where I just keep stopping playing in my uncontrollable neurosis over it. At first I figured it was a bug, yet I haven't seen anyone else say or report it at any point since the RoI release - so now I'm not sure if it just got buried by other bug reports or if my memory is playing tricks on me :\ Not that hard to work around at any rate, just a minor thing that I've been horribly fixated on each time I've started it up, so I need a quick sanity check that's not worth starting a thread over.

And if it is a mis-remembering, please tell me there's a mod that adds it in that I can dig up if nothing else, as I'm seriously fixated on this issue as causing needless mouse clicks etc to a sickening/worrying degree at this point or even an edit I can make myself. Thanks for any help to my sanity!
 

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I stopped playing just before RoI when a bug made my savegames crash, so figured I'd just wait and actually play the myriad of other games I've got on tap and have been ignoring during the meantime when I heard about the upcoming DLC needing me to start over anyhow. Now, onto my question!

Am I simply mis-remembering things or did the diplomacy map view use to have the actual opinion of the vassal ruler of that county pop up conveniently when you hovered over it? Or did I just do this via the relative color of green or is there something else I've forgotten in the meantime?

It's been seriously bugging me like crazy to where I just keep stopping playing in my uncontrollable neurosis over it. At first I figured it was a bug, yet I haven't seen anyone else say or report it at any point since the RoI release - so now I'm not sure if it just got buried by other bug reports or if my memory is playing tricks on me :\ Not that hard to work around at any rate, just a minor thing that I've been horribly fixated on each time I've started it up, so I need a quick sanity check that's not worth starting a thread over.

And if it is a mis-remembering, please tell me there's a mod that adds it in that I can dig up if nothing else, as I'm seriously fixated on this issue as causing needless mouse clicks etc to a sickening/worrying degree at this point or even an edit I can make myself. Thanks for any help to my sanity!

Are you looking for the Opinion mapmode (which shows personal opinion scores)? It's different (and always has been) from the "Diplomacy" mapmode (which shows your CBs and alliances)
 

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Yup, that's the opinion map mode.
2nd row, third i believe. The bubble.
Had to start up the game to check. Never used it, but maybe i should. Helpfull for huge realms.
Thanks for the inspiration. :)
 

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Are you looking for the Opinion mapmode (which shows personal opinion scores)? It's different (and always has been) from the "Diplomacy" mapmode (which shows your CBs and alliances)

Hmm, I will be ridiculously happy (and a bit chagrined for my confusion) if I was just not clicking the right mode. Like I tried to explain, I took a good bit of a break during a lot of changes to the game, so I just attributed it to those changes. This sounds the most likely though if no one else has been scratching their heads about it changing or experiencing something similar.

The more I think on it the more I think you've hit the nail on the head, so many thanks for the assistance and unreasonable-sanity-saving and now I'll just have to hope I haven't forgotten everything else to scratch my head on for long periods of confusion! ....especially when it comes down to 'click the button right next to the one your muscle-memory and actual memory are thinking is correct....' :p

Yup, that's the opinion map mode.
2nd row, third i believe. The bubble.
Had to start up the game to check. Never used it, but maybe i should. Helpfull for huge realms.
Thanks for the inspiration. :)

Oh, it's something I'm a bit too obviously addicted to using. I'd get to the 'send my councilors to do something' section of starting a new game and look to see whom I need to groom towards a more positive opinion of my magnificence and it went from being 'quick glance at the map' to 'start clicking on everyone to see who this would be best for' then I'd just get distracted by it all seeming to take so much more effort and I'd fall apart in distraction like an itch I couldn't figure out how to scratch without 7 times more effort than I was used to. It's a great and easy to use time-saving and informative mode to glance at now and again for managing things, imo.
 
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Oh, it's something I'm a bit too obviously addicted to using. I'd get to the 'send my councilors to do something' section of starting a new game and look to see whom I need to groom towards a more positive opinion of my magnificence and it went from being 'quick glance at the map' to 'start clicking on everyone to see who this would be best for' then I'd just get distracted by it all seeming to take so much more effort and I'd fall apart in distraction like an itch I couldn't figure out how to scratch without 7 times more effort than I was used to. It's a great and easy to use time-saving and informative mode to glance at now and again for managing things, imo.

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I get caught in micromanagment as well.
For bad mood vassals i just check the vassals tab and arrange it by opinion.
Far quicker in situations like inheritance or rebellions and only shows direct vassals.
On the other hand the map mode is nice for checking in between if everything's alright in general, especially when one has a bigger empire i suppose.
Looks nice too. Yes i should and will use it more often from now on.:happy:
 

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I get caught in micromanagment as well.
For bad mood vassals i just check the vassals tab and arrange it by opinion.
Far quicker in situations like inheritance or rebellions and only shows direct vassals.
On the other hand the map mode is nice for checking in between if everything's alright in general, especially when one has a bigger empire i suppose.
Looks nice too. Yes i should and will use it more often from now on.:happy:

That's more or less how I go about it. I generally use the vassal's tab for finding duke/king/mayor level people causing issues and/or to rank them in list format. While the map mode just makes it prettier and easier to do at a glance for any necessary county level maintenance and actually sending councilors to their court etc. I'd highly recommend it as a useful tool! ...the only downside is that you may become overly dependent upon it :eek:o

Do we know when the next version of the patch will be out? My games are still unplayable atm.

There's a beta patch if you feel the need to go for it and can't wait for it to properly be released for whatever reasons. Just click the properties off steam and delve through the menus and it should be reasonably apparent how to grab it. Not sure how much longer they'll want to test it or what issues they're still trying to fix up before rolling it out officially, though.