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Hi, I just managed my first Religious conquest in the game. I now own 4 Counties and all the baronies under them (All of Sevilla, except Sevilla proper and the Sheikdom title).

I know I can't hold the land by myself due to demense limits but I'm wondering whether I should collect all the titles under one vassal (To make him strong enough to fight) or spread them out?

I plan on usurping the sheikdom title as soon as the guy who hold it get peace and plan to perma-send my chaplains over there to help convert.

Sorry if it sound stupid but this is my first foray into religious warfare in this game.
 

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The easiest and most usual way to deal with this is:

1.) Create new vassals for the baronies (especially churches and towns, castles you could give to the count to bolster his power) via right click -> create new vassal.
2.) Pick able guys out of your court (that are of your culture and religion) and grant them the counties.
3.) Pick the guy you adore the most out of the counts and give him the ducal title.

You could also give all the counties to one duke, but be sure that he is loyal. And never make dukes that are strong enough to challenge you on their own.
 

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Hi, I just managed my first Religious conquest in the game. I now own 4 Counties and all the baronies under them (All of Sevilla, except Sevilla proper and the Sheikdom title).

I know I can't hold the land by myself due to demense limits but I'm wondering whether I should collect all the titles under one vassal (To make him strong enough to fight) or spread them out?

I plan on usurping the sheikdom title as soon as the guy who hold it get peace and plan to perma-send my chaplains over there to help convert.

Sorry if it sound stupid but this is my first foray into religious warfare in this game.

Break it up. Keep your vassals weak is the name of the game. You'll be protecting them as king in any case that might arise. Once you get the Ducal title you can give it to the most loyal of those vassals and make him even more loyal while he manages the rest of those knuckleheads.

Don't send your chaplain out UNTIL they convert culturally! When a province is a different culture AND religion it gets a event to convert its culture to your own(regardless of culture borders). This generally can happen very quickly, much quicker than regular same religion culture spread. This will give you more troops from those provinces sooner(eliminating the diff culture modifier), as well as lowering revolt risk. After they convert culturally then send in the inquisition. Which no one obviously suspects.
 

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Sorry Sires, but I am in panic:

I cannot use my Holy Order Armies: I can recruit them, but in a battle after a second they are defeated. They have 7350 man but when I put them with other troops in a stack they are not counted.
This happens after a few years. At the beginning everything was all right.

This is a bug? Or do I anything wrong?
I need this troops to defend the Kingdom of Jerusalem.

Thanks for help.
 

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Sorry Sires, but I am in panic:

I cannot use my Holy Order Armies: I can recruit them, but in a battle after a second they are defeated. They have 7350 man but when I put them with other troops in a stack they are not counted.
This happens after a few years. At the beginning everything was all right.

This is a bug? Or do I anything wrong?
I need this troops to defend the Kingdom of Jerusalem.

Thanks for help.

If you are using them against other christian enemies, they will not fight at all.

Another possibility is you are recruiting them and sending them into battle right away, before they have had time to build up morale.

Another possibility is I have no idea what is going on and maybe there is some sort of bug.
 

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The easiest and most usual way to deal with this is:

1.) Create new vassals for the baronies (especially churches and towns, castles you could give to the count to bolster his power) via right click -> create new vassal.
2.) Pick able guys out of your court (that are of your culture and religion) and grant them the counties.
3.) Pick the guy you adore the most out of the counts and give him the ducal title.

You could also give all the counties to one duke, but be sure that he is loyal. And never make dukes that are strong enough to challenge you on their own.

Beware that sometimes the auto-generated Mayors give you wrong inheritance warnings. Be especially careful in recently conquered areas which are wrong religion. I tend to double up or even triple up on mayors and bishops. They're not gonna revolt, easier to make 5 guys happy than 15. As to Bishoprics, don't auto-create bishops. If you give a Bishopric to an existing Bishop (some Bishops, not all of them), you get +25 piety. I do not recall getting that for AI generated Bishops. One downside, Bishoprics may split up (?), but mayors tend to stay grouped forever.

As for counties, I ignore abilities or even guys I like. Only one stat matters: I want people who like me! Failing that, pick content vassals and imprison ambitious ones at the first opportunity. Keep in mind also that certain bad acts by you may not affect courtiers, but when they become Counts those negative modifiers come into play. So +40 for granting a county might be offset by other actions you've taken, actions which only pissed off the landed class. If I knew more, I'd tell you which modifiers carry over. I think some affect everyone, like Tyranny (?) while others might only affect people who were in your court when you did them. Sorry I can't be more specific, but keep that in mind.

Wrong holding penalties can be annoying, or helpful. Have an ambitious Duke who you want to revolt? If you can get him a "wrong holding" penalty at -30, that's Court Jester x3. Revolt, imprison, one free title revocation and he dies in prison. Assuming he was going to revolt anyway, of course.

Break it up. Keep your vassals weak is the name of the game. You'll be protecting them as king in any case that might arise. Once you get the Ducal title you can give it to the most loyal of those vassals and make him even more loyal while he manages the rest of those knuckleheads.

Generally speaking weak vassals rule. However, as King of Burgundy, I had one Duke in lower Italy who went nuts grabbing stuff. By the end of the game, Burgundy owned much of southern Italy, bits of Spain and a few Counties in north Germany. I hadn't lifted a finger to help (I was busy destroying France).
 
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Hi guys, quick question.

I am a king of almost entire Ireland, but I inherited a random piece of land in France. I don't want it, and the guy is treatening to rebel... Can I just give him the land title and be done with it? Or sell it maybe? I want to get rid of it :)

Thank you for your time!
 

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Hi guys, quick question.

I am a king of almost entire Ireland, but I inherited a random piece of land in France. I don't want it, and the guy is treatening to rebel... Can I just give him the land title and be done with it? Or sell it maybe? I want to get rid of it :)

Thank you for your time!

If he's threatening to rebel, wait until he does, then surrender. That's all it takes.

You could, alternatively, imprison him when he rebels and you win, then grant the land to the pope. You'll get lots of piety if you do that.

Is there any convenient way to find people that will accept invitations to your court instead of asking 100 different characters from the character ledger?

Find the title -> claimants -> there will be a little green thumbs-up next to those who would accept an invitation to your court.
 

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I'm not looking to find title claimants. I'm trying to bring new people in to my court to take positions on my council.

Pretty sure that since the patch people will NEVER accept invitations to your court unless they are a claimant as he said or you offer a marriage to someone in your court that it is worth their while.
 

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I'm not looking to find title claimants. I'm trying to bring new people in to my court to take positions on my council.

Well looking for title claimants is one way to bring people to your court, if they are good they can go on the council! You can actually get quite a lot of title claimants if you are in the right place, just look for independent duchies around you. Otherwise just ask in your realm rather than everywhere they are more likely to come if they are already your vassal.
 

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Does the Byzantines even have a unique cultural building? If so, what is it?

No, not everyone does. Italy, Germany, France, England, Scotland, Russia, Spanish cultures do IIRC. Others don't. You can click on any castle on the map to see what buildings are built there. It will let you check out every cultures special building.

Does stewardship matter when it comes to mayors and the like?

Stewardship increases their income so a high stewardship mayor (or any type of ) vassal will pay you more money. I wouldn't obsess about microing it though, it won't make that large a difference
 

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Well looking for title claimants is one way to bring people to your court, if they are good they can go on the council! You can actually get quite a lot of title claimants if you are in the right place, just look for independent duchies around you. Otherwise just ask in your realm rather than everywhere they are more likely to come if they are already your vassal.

A good trick is to invite a claimant to your court who would become your vassal if you win a war for him, marry him to your eldest daughter or if he already has a minor heir educate him in your culture or better yet under your own supervision.
 

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Currently playing as Lithuania. Started out as Polotsk, and educated my heirs to be good Lithuanian pagans instead of Orthodox Russians.

Last Orthodox ruler i had is dead, and i conquered all of the Lithuanian pagans i could. Problem is, i cant do "holy wars" versus people of diferent faith. Is this a bug, or WAD?

All of the world can jump on me, but i cant jump on them? Lame stuff.

OTOH, its nice to have Warrior Cult buildings. That stuff costs only 10 gold coins, and gives you 600 extra troops per province!

HRE is my neighbour btw... i want to see how many years i will manage to last. :p
 

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or if he already has a minor heir educate him in your culture or better yet under your own supervision.

Or better yet, assassinate his wife and kid and then marry him to your daugher!
 

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Or better yet, assassinate his wife and kid and then marry him to your daugher!

Thats what i do when i dont got alternative. :p