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i set my spymaster to study tech from a province with 1 full bar of legalism tech filled. I then set all my other councilors to research tech in my capital. I have 0.8 total legalism but the bar has 0 chance to increase by 0.1 each year. Why is this? Shouldnt the study tech from a superior tech location have a chance of increasing it each year? Plus boosted by culture job of my priest councilor? I know i can spend points outright gained by being a duke and above but im planning on switching capitals soon anyway so just want to know why it isnt increasing in this situation passively.
Study technology is a percentage chance to fire an event to give you some technology points.
-That is to say it doesn't accumulate passively, but in discrete event portions.
 

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Study technology is a percentage chance to fire an event to give you some technology points.
-That is to say it doesn't accumulate passively, but in discrete event portions.
Oh so it only gives like 50 points in one category randomly. Then what determines the passive growth of 0.1 each year? All the adjacent provinces have less legalism than my own so they couldnt have gotten me to 0.8
 

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I swear that study technology also applied the adjacency bonus to your capital (i.e. it treats the province being studied as if it were a neighbor of your capital for tech spread purposes).
Yeah thats what I thought too. Thats why I dont understand why I am no longer gaining growth from studying tech job. Since, if it makes the target province act as if its adjacent to my capital, then it should have a chance to boost all higher tech levels until my own matches it or I upgrade them manually
 

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Yeah thats what I thought too. Thats why I dont understand why I am no longer gaining growth from studying tech job. Since, if it makes the target province act as if its adjacent to my capital, then it should have a chance to boost all higher tech levels until my own matches it or I upgrade them manually

Now technology spread is, to me, a rather impenetrable system, so I won’t pretend to know the answer for sure. However I believe the adjacent demesne provinces (which may or may not include the province your spymaster is studying tech in, I believe it does include that one) give a bonus relative to the difference in level between another province. Seeing that you have 0.8 and the province you are studying tech in has 1, this may be insignificant enough to give a boost?

Furthermore you seemed to imply in your earlier post that you are a Count (might be wrong here), but maybe besides not gaining tech points, they also not spread it like this?
 

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Now technology spread is, to me, a rather impenetrable system, so I won’t pretend to know the answer for sure. However I believe the adjacent demesne provinces (which may or may not include the province your spymaster is studying tech in, I believe it does include that one) give a bonus relative to the difference in level between another province. Seeing that you have 0.8 and the province you are studying tech in has 1, this may be insignificant enough to give a boost?

Furthermore you seemed to imply in your earlier post that you are a Count (might be wrong here), but maybe besides not gaining tech points, they also not spread it like this?
the passive boost being relative seems like the most likely explanation.

And nah im a king I just dont like spending points. I always hoard in rpgs. Plus im moving capitals soon
 

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.... councilors to research tech in my capital. I have 0.8 total legalism but the bar has 0 chance to increase by 0.1 each year. Why is this?..

Your spymaster is probably not good enough to encourage spread at that small 0.2 difference in tech left.
edit: as Lord_Bean basically already implied above...and the relative difference compared to the tech level
of your other own provinces matters too indeed.

..okay,..a pretty superfluous post by me, admittedly...:oops:, besides confirming aforementioned.
 
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So; I'm a guy with little~no clue about CK2...

So I followed advice; went onto Newbie Island. Not even managed to make a claim yet, and I'm on my 3rd ruler as my 1st died with a male heir at 14, and then the male heir died at 17; leaving his sister in charge.

So; I had to take a Matilineal Marriage as this woman was the only surviving member of my dynasty. There wasn't many eligible bachelors who would accept. But there was a man who had weak claims on Francia. A Karling for that matter. So I married him... and then this happened:

lAvrdne.jpg

My Husband managed toi somehow userp the Throne of Italy, and now my lowly Irish Cheiftess is married matrilinearly to the King of Italy...

454xSzw.jpg

Which means my heir is the Heir of Italy now.

I have absolutely no clue how to handle this situation. I've hardly even had vassals, let alone a massive kingdom.

I think I managed to luck into an Irish-Italian Empire?
 

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So; I'm a guy with little~no clue about CK2...

So I followed advice; went onto Newbie Island. Not even managed to make a claim yet, and I'm on my 3rd ruler as my 1st died with a male heir at 14, and then the male heir died at 17; leaving his sister in charge.

So; I had to take a Matilineal Marriage as this woman was the only surviving member of my dynasty. There wasn't many eligible bachelors who would accept. But there was a man who had weak claims on Francia. A Karling for that matter. So I married him... and then this happened:

lAvrdne.jpg

My Husband managed toi somehow userp the Throne of Italy, and now my lowly Irish Cheiftess is married matrilinearly to the King of Italy...

454xSzw.jpg

Which means my heir is the Heir of Italy now.

I have absolutely no clue how to handle this situation. I've hardly even had vassals, let alone a massive kingdom.

I think I managed to luck into an Irish-Italian Empire?
First: Ireland is "Tutorial Island" in 1066, not 867 or 769. In the earlier start dates you are liable to get invaded by Vikings for no good reason because their gods hate you.

Second: oof. Going from count to King is not an easy transition. Also, there isn't any good way to go back. Furthermore, Italy and Ireland are far enough apart that it is really hard to split attention (England and Normandy is normally hard enough that expansion on the continent as emperor of britain is slow). I suspect you are going to crash and burn really fast.

That said, things could get really fun. See if you can enact Tanistry when you take Italy. Tanistry is a weird system (though the forthcoming eldership might be similar), but if you keep your dynasty strong and celtic (irish, welsh, and scottish definitely, maybe breton), it keeps the titles in the family. I think your family likes it more than vassals dislike it, so if you have lots of family vassals it can make things easier with your vassals.
 

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Do hospital upgrade bonuses stack, if you build more than one hospital? It's always seemed implied (to me at least) that one is supposed to build a hospital their capital, upgrade it, and that's it. Obviously you can build other hospitals, but it's not clear if all the tech/piety/prestige/vassal-likes-me bonuses will stack.

Even the wiki alludes to the "hospital in the capital" notion:

wiki said:
you can spend 300 piety and allow a holy order to build a castle in your capital in exchange for a hospital there.

Right now my capital is in a temporary place (old man w/ short reign, I just wanted to clear out the duchy of not-my-culture rulers in that duchy, then I'll move it back next succession). So right now, should I build a hospital in this temporary capital, and get a Holy Order to have a castle? Maybe so I can vassalize them at some point?
 

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First: Ireland is "Tutorial Island" in 1066, not 867 or 769. In the earlier start dates you are liable to get invaded by Vikings for no good reason because their gods hate you.

Second: oof. Going from count to King is not an easy transition. Also, there isn't any good way to go back. Furthermore, Italy and Ireland are far enough apart that it is really hard to split attention (England and Normandy is normally hard enough that expansion on the continent as emperor of britain is slow). I suspect you are going to crash and burn really fast.

That said, things could get really fun. See if you can enact Tanistry when you take Italy. Tanistry is a weird system (though the forthcoming eldership might be similar), but if you keep your dynasty strong and celtic (irish, welsh, and scottish definitely, maybe breton), it keeps the titles in the family. I think your family likes it more than vassals dislike it, so if you have lots of family vassals it can make things easier with your vassals.

Crash and burn eh?

Sounds like the best type of tutorial. Worst-case scenario; I'll have a fun story! Or at least escape the Vikings.

How common is it in CK2 for your player character's power base/location to completely change anyway? In my case; going from Ireland to Italy.

Oh; and the Father is now also the Heir to Middle Francia; making my son the Heir of Italy and the 3rd in line for Middle Francia. Although the current ruler is a young boy... perhaps I should secure my Husband the throne...

EDIT: Husband died at 33. Son is now King of Italy and Heir to Middle Francia.

EDIT2:

vEKfOZa.jpg

Cheiftess Muirgel 'the Gentle [Despite being the murderer of the Child-King of Middle Francia]' Ua Cheinnselaig of Langin - Ruler of a single County... and has masterminded her son to own an Empire not seen since the Romans.

Just CK2 things I guess?

No idea how on earth I'm going to manage this. But if I'm going to go down in flames at least make the funeral pyre as large as possible.

Oh; and my son's Excommunicated. Good luck dealing with that Pope.

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Apparently the way to deal with it was to make my son Charlemagne.

I'm not sure what the record is for being the HRE; but I'm gonna be the HRE as soon as my current Cheiftess kicks the bucket...
 
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EDIT2:

vEKfOZa.jpg

Cheiftess Muirgel 'the Gentle [Despite being the murderer of the Child-King of Middle Francia]' Ua Cheinnselaig of Langin - Ruler of a single County... and has masterminded her son to own an Empire not seen since the Romans.

Just CK2 things I guess?

No idea how on earth I'm going to manage this. But if I'm going to go down in flames at least make the funeral pyre as large as possible.

Oh; and my son's Excommunicated. Good luck dealing with that Pope.

60jVTUX.jpg

Apparently the way to deal with it was to make my son Charlemagne.

I'm not sure what the record is for being the HRE; but I'm gonna be the HRE as soon as my current Cheiftess kicks the bucket...

I see that you have already gotten the spirit of CK2. There are 3 things CK2 players do memetically: incest, murder children, and fiddle as the world burns.

And inheriting a fairly stable HRE is probably going to be easier than trying to keep Italy and 1 county in Ireland together. I would still expect to lose the HRE within a couple generations.
 

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First: Ireland is "Tutorial Island" in 1066, not 867 or 769. In the earlier start dates you are liable to get invaded by Vikings for no good reason because their gods hate you.
I found Ireland a pretty good tutorial in 867. I guess you have to get lucky and not get a viking invasion too early, but the upside is that expanding outside Ireland is way easier when Scotland is tribal and England is divided into four or five petty kingdoms.
 

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Why am I not getting Casus Bellis for anything bigger than a couple counties?

I'm playing as Byzantine and I got a hold of the HRE through a marriage while it was fragmenting ~800-900AD, as well as large chunks of Spain and Africa.
My current realm has land in France, Germany, Burgundy, Bavaria, Bohemia, Saxony, Portugal, Carpathia, Armenia, Syria, and much more. But I cant seem to wage war for most duchies or any foreign kingdoms. Instead, I'm forced to conquer one county at a time.

In a previous game I played as Andalusia, I was getting casus bellis for entire kingdoms, such as entire Italy, burgundy, France etc. Why not now?
 

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^^ Maybe so, I dont remember.

I have overlapping territory with many foreign realms but all i seem to get is county claims, not even ducal claims for most. I have ~40% of France in my realm and the rest is in a foreign French kingdom, yet I'm only getting county claims if I try to press a war on them. Same story with other realms.
 

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  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • BATTLETECH
  • BATTLETECH: Flashpoint
  • BATTLETECH: Season pass
  • BATTLETECH: Heavy Metal
For de jure claims the most you can get is ducal claims (and only with Jade Dragon).

Other claims are personal claims of people in your realm. Most of those will be weak claims and those can only be pressed under certain circumstances