What are the rules for the long reign bonus? aka how is it determined for each vassal
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It changes each year that the specific individual is your vassal (or courtier) and is calculated separately for every character. Thus when you first ascend to office it will be the same for all your lackeys but as they die at different times their successors will have different modifiers. The same applies to people who subsequently become your vassals through the various methods available.
FWIW I have followed a few AARs where they were able to continue after a map re-work on an old save, but it did create all sorts of oddities.
Yeah. While patches don't always break saves, the safe and simple advice is "assume they will."
I have some succession problem breaking my empires apart, that I don't understand.
I'm playing as Emperor of Byzantine. Some 50-100 years ago, I got a hold of the HRE through a marriage that produced an heir who inherited both the Byzantine empire as well as the HRE. Couple more successions, everything fine. But my new ruler, I married to a duchess vassal of mine. She gave birth to a child, born in the purple. Still everything good. But then she gave birth to a 2nd child, born in the purple, and now I get a warning that upon succession, my county of Rome as well as the entire HRE will cede to my eldest son, while my 2nd son is the heir to my Byzantine throne.
How did the second son become heir over the first one, and why is the 2nd son not inheriting both titles? I haven't changed any succession laws in either empires for many generations, nor any by factions/councils demanding a law change. I have abolished the council long ago.
The only noticeable difference between the two sons (apart from age) is that the 1st, though born in the purple, is in my wife's court, while the 2nd appeared in my court.
To make matters worse, everybody has a good opinion of him (nobody plotting against him), and even worse, my current ruler has smallpox and I fear he'll be dead in a few years.
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I cannot award the 1st son any honorary titles, like Despot. Giving despot to 2nd son doesn't change anything.
Both sons unlanded.
Neither have any claims to anything else.
Both empires have Agnatic-Cognatic Primogeniture.
Wife (the duchess) has a claim on the county of Derbent and a claim on the Kingdom of Georgia.
Wife's heir is the despot of Georgia (one of my vassals). They don't appear to be related...
I'm playing as Emperor of Byzantine. Some 50-100 years ago, I got a hold of the HRE through a marriage that produced an heir who inherited both the Byzantine empire as well as the HRE. Couple more successions, everything fine. But my new ruler, I married to a duchess vassal of mine. She gave birth to a child, born in the purple. Still everything good. But then she gave birth to a 2nd child, born in the purple, and now I get a warning that upon succession, my county of Rome as well as the entire HRE will cede to my eldest son, while my 2nd son is the heir to my Byzantine throne.
How did the second son become heir over the first one, and why is the 2nd son not inheriting both titles? I haven't changed any succession laws in either empires for many generations, nor any by factions/councils demanding a law change. I have abolished the council long ago.
The only noticeable difference between the two sons (apart from age) is that the 1st, though born in the purple, is in my wife's court, while the 2nd appeared in my court.
To make matters worse, everybody has a good opinion of him (nobody plotting against him), and even worse, my current ruler has smallpox and I fear he'll be dead in a few years.
Edit:
I cannot award the 1st son any honorary titles, like Despot. Giving despot to 2nd son doesn't change anything.
Both sons unlanded.
Neither have any claims to anything else.
Both empires have Agnatic-Cognatic Primogeniture.
Wife (the duchess) has a claim on the county of Derbent and a claim on the Kingdom of Georgia.
Wife's heir is the despot of Georgia (one of my vassals). They don't appear to be related...
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So in my current game I am playing a conversion mod and have been ruling for 139 years, with 105 of those with my current empire title. I have a 48 year old grandson who was born in my court and made my vassal 31 years ago, and got his current duchy title 26 years ago. I also have a great grandson who got his duchy title from his father about 1 month ago, from his father who had been my vassal duke for 26 years (I made the duchy after conquering some land). Finally, I have a decision generated noble who has now been my vassal for about 11 years, 10 with his current duchy. They all have a +47 long reign modifier of me, and I am very confused.
As far as I am aware, they haven't touched how long reign works, but I could ask
A few questions regarding DLC. So I bought the game a couple weeks ago during a sale, picked up most of the DLC shortly after, and then picked up the last of the DLC yesterday during a steam sale. I have a few questions about the DLC.
Edit: One more question. In Conclave, what happens with the old education traits, i.e. stuff like Elusive Shadow, Brilliant Strategist etc. How do you obtain those? Can they still be passed on from a guardian? Are they a result of childhood focus? Pot luck?
- Sunset invasion: I bought it for future use, but I'm not planning to make use of it right now, since I'm just learning the game. Is there any difference between turning off Aztec invasion in the pre-game setup and disabling the DLC entirely?
- Conclave: Should I play with it on right away or wait until I'm a little less terrible at the game? I get the idea that it adds a fair bit of challenge to things.
- Supernatural events: For the playthrough I'm about to start I'd like some vague level of realism. I don't care if there's some supernatural stuff that could be interpreted in other ways, but probably don't want my character turning immortal or something like that which has no rational explanation. Should I turn these off for this playthrough or are they mostly not too intrusive?
Edit: One more question. In Conclave, what happens with the old education traits, i.e. stuff like Elusive Shadow, Brilliant Strategist etc. How do you obtain those? Can they still be passed on from a guardian? Are they a result of childhood focus? Pot luck?
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1. No.
2. I'd recommend turning it on right away. It doesn't necessarily make the game more difficult, it just changes how certain interactions/laws/education work. Learning the 'old' system first and then the Conclave system has few benefits in my opinion. Though there are people who swear by the old system, so you could consider playing with that for a bit and then switching on Conclave and playing with it for a bit, to see what you like better.
3. Giving your position it is probably better to turn them off. The 'could be interpreted as supernatural' always felt to me like 'either your are on psychotropic drugs or this is supernatural'.
4. They education traits on all levels (1-4 stars) are still there. How it works is that from 0-11 children get childhood traits (playful, brooding, timid, etc.). This is influenced by the childhood focus (for example Etiquette more often leads to Indolent and Playful, whilst Struggle more often leasds to Willful and Rowdy) and on random events (so RNG). The guardian can influence the traits the child gets, but it is not 100%. So a decision may pop up for a guardian to encourage or discourage a child from developing in some way, which is dependent on the guardian's traits. From 12-16 you choose an Education focus for the child, which is one of the five education areas. The child will always get the education trait associated with their education focus, but the level of the education depends on how well they do at it. This is influenced by their childhood traits, which work better or worse with different educations. For example a timid child is better at a Learning education and worse at Martial education. Furthermore the childhood traits will slowly be replaced by normal traits, again influenced by decision of the guardian, but not 100%. There are a few more factors that come into play, for the full explanation see this wiki article: https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Education_(Conclave)
This means that the new system makes it harder to groom 'perfect' heirs (by for example switching to a brilliant tutor with a level four education in the desired field the day before the child turns 16), and creates more diverse characters. I personally think it is an improvement, but again some people prefer the old system.
2. I'd recommend turning it on right away. It doesn't necessarily make the game more difficult, it just changes how certain interactions/laws/education work. Learning the 'old' system first and then the Conclave system has few benefits in my opinion. Though there are people who swear by the old system, so you could consider playing with that for a bit and then switching on Conclave and playing with it for a bit, to see what you like better.
3. Giving your position it is probably better to turn them off. The 'could be interpreted as supernatural' always felt to me like 'either your are on psychotropic drugs or this is supernatural'.
4. They education traits on all levels (1-4 stars) are still there. How it works is that from 0-11 children get childhood traits (playful, brooding, timid, etc.). This is influenced by the childhood focus (for example Etiquette more often leads to Indolent and Playful, whilst Struggle more often leasds to Willful and Rowdy) and on random events (so RNG). The guardian can influence the traits the child gets, but it is not 100%. So a decision may pop up for a guardian to encourage or discourage a child from developing in some way, which is dependent on the guardian's traits. From 12-16 you choose an Education focus for the child, which is one of the five education areas. The child will always get the education trait associated with their education focus, but the level of the education depends on how well they do at it. This is influenced by their childhood traits, which work better or worse with different educations. For example a timid child is better at a Learning education and worse at Martial education. Furthermore the childhood traits will slowly be replaced by normal traits, again influenced by decision of the guardian, but not 100%. There are a few more factors that come into play, for the full explanation see this wiki article: https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Education_(Conclave)
This means that the new system makes it harder to groom 'perfect' heirs (by for example switching to a brilliant tutor with a level four education in the desired field the day before the child turns 16), and creates more diverse characters. I personally think it is an improvement, but again some people prefer the old system.
It also makes the game easier in some ways
For example if you have an empowered council, then councilors can't faction unless the council is discontent (after a succession). It's easier not having to deal with crown authority.
And opinion modifiers from changing laws are only temporary. Without Conclave you can hike up taxes or levy obligations, but they give you a permanent opinion penalty. With Conclave for some reason people are only a little upset if you increase taxes, but then get used to it
Matter of taste. There are some really cool event chains there. They used to be more subdued and open to interpretation, but got more explicit as time went on.
If you don't install the DLC you get a small advertisement for it at the beginning
I'm King of Valencia and slowly unifying Iberia. The Vikings (reformed, but weakened by the Aztecs) invaded Asturias/Leon and build quite a presence there, enough for Aquitaine to give some land they reconquered from them to the Teutonics. How do I take the counties the Order owns when the time comes to kick them out? For some reason I cant de jure them for Asturias de Santillana despite having the Duchy of Castille, and I dont look forward to having to fabricate my way in if I can avoid it.
Not sure if it is WAD that you can't declare a war for de jure counties, might be, might not be. Other options area:
- Do they have any holdings outside de jure Hispania? Otherwise you may be able to get them to swear fealty to you diplomatically when you are the emperor. Though it would probably require you to flip to German culture for a character...
- Another option is of course to flip to Muslim, holy war them, and then convert back to Catholicism.
- Fabricate the claims...
Hi all, created an account just to ask this question since it's massively bummed me out:
Only had 4 DLCs (Legacy of Rome, Sons of Abraham, Charlemagne, Way of Life) and started as Byzantine Emperor in 767
Game was going incredibly smoothly, in part because the Byzantines unsurprisingly started with Imperial Administration and whatever the 'full' viceroyalty option was (so, duchies and kingdoms) so by the 920s I had an empire entirely of Exarchs and Strategoi who owed their positions to me, had resolved the Schism, and was just three Italian territories away from restoring the Empire.
Downloaded Conclave and The Reaper's Due since they were on sale and installed them, and then upon opening my save, all my laws, even the ones from vanilla that aren't related to Conclave, had been reset so I had feudal administration, no viceroyalties, and am now consequently eight vassals over the limit with no way of reducing them and with every dead strategos creating a new problem.
Does anyone know why the game does this and/or have suggestions for how to reduce direct vassals without granting independence (I've already created and delegated every kingdom except Greece and Anatolia since I have territory in both and would therefore still have everyone as a vassal)?
Only had 4 DLCs (Legacy of Rome, Sons of Abraham, Charlemagne, Way of Life) and started as Byzantine Emperor in 767
Game was going incredibly smoothly, in part because the Byzantines unsurprisingly started with Imperial Administration and whatever the 'full' viceroyalty option was (so, duchies and kingdoms) so by the 920s I had an empire entirely of Exarchs and Strategoi who owed their positions to me, had resolved the Schism, and was just three Italian territories away from restoring the Empire.
Downloaded Conclave and The Reaper's Due since they were on sale and installed them, and then upon opening my save, all my laws, even the ones from vanilla that aren't related to Conclave, had been reset so I had feudal administration, no viceroyalties, and am now consequently eight vassals over the limit with no way of reducing them and with every dead strategos creating a new problem.
Does anyone know why the game does this and/or have suggestions for how to reduce direct vassals without granting independence (I've already created and delegated every kingdom except Greece and Anatolia since I have territory in both and would therefore still have everyone as a vassal)?
Activating DLCs mid-game is not a good idea. Especially Conclave which completely changes the law system
heya. just conquered the kingdom of greece as Charlamagne and ofc, got Constantinople. my question is it worth it to move my capital? the duchy has only 3 counties, Constantinople's county is already full of cities(4) and i feel like i wont get as many troops from there like a county with 5 castles and 1-1, city-church.
There's two approaches to getting the most out of the capital duchy bonuses. Either you go wide and own one large duchy like a Brittany or Sicily for example, or you go tall and own something smaller with a lot of baronies (especially if it's in your capital, since you get an even greater bonus for your capital county). A perfect example of the latter is actually the Duchy of Thrace, where Constantinople is. That said, it'll only be good to you if you can also have all of the baronies.
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That is my issue in this game, Constantinople has all it's baronies full of cities. it has 2 castles(county capital + 1 barony) 1 church and rest cities.
Dont think is there any way to destroy them on my own without console commands, but it's tech is overall higher then my current capital.
That is my issue in this game, Constantinople has all it's baronies full of cities. it has 2 castles(county capital + 1 barony) 1 church and rest cities.
Dont think is there any way to destroy them on my own without console commands, but it's tech is overall higher then my current capital.
ive heard you can maximize tall by having all the baronies be castles. but how is that done when A) you must build one of each type of holding before you can build more baronies of the same type and
b) once a holding is built it cannot be destroyed?
You can't strictly speaking have them all be castles, but you can have all but two of them be castles. In a province like Constantinople that's still a lot of castles.