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If you make him a duke he will stay your vassal after he inherits. People change lieges through inheritance only if the tier of the title they inherit is higher than their current tier. So if a count or lower inherits a duchy from another realm he'll switch over to that realm, but a duke or higher would remain your vassal.
 

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Newbie here, so I'm not yet bothered by things such as religious reformations and stuff. I understand that the more holy sites your religon holds the easier converting is. But is there any reason to want to vassalise these holdings myself. (for example you get extra missionaries and prestige in EU4 for holding certain cities, something like that?)
 

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No, you get the moral authority bonus just from controlling the holding, no matter what vassal of a vassal or whatever actually holds it (as long as that person is of your religion). You don't get extra bonsus from holding the county or the holding yourself (and in most cases you can't hold the holding yourself anyway, because it's a temple).
 

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No, you get the moral authority bonus just from controlling the holding, no matter what vassal of a vassal or whatever actually holds it (as long as that person is of your religion). You don't get extra bonsus from holding the county or the holding yourself (and in most cases you can't hold the holding yourself anyway, because it's a temple).

Ok so I get moral authority if its within my realm and the vassal who holds it shares my religion. that makes sense
 

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Ok so I get moral authority if its within my realm and the vassal who holds it shares my religion. that makes sense
Well, it doesn't neccecarially have to be within your realm specifically. It just has to be under the proper religion for you, and whoever holds it to get the MA.

If you are looking to reform however, you need to hold 3 of the sites yourself.
 

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I don't have EU4 so I can't say for sure, but the most likely title you'd want is the kingdom of Frisia, perhaps with Flanders and Brabant de jure drifted into it. For culture on the other hand the obvious choice is Dutch.

If you'll start in the early start dates there might not be any dutch characters availableto play. You'll then want to be either Frankish or Frisian and own the kingdom of Frisia, which should eventually allow Dutch culture to emerge in your realm.
 

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It's normal for it to take years. As a 50 year old you might still be fine, but I wouldn't recommend doing it if you're already in your sixties.
 

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It's normal for it to take years. As a 50 year old you might still be fine, but I wouldn't recommend doing it if you're already in your sixties.
I had my character start writing a book at age 2. He finished it at age 31.

It was a very good quality book.
 

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Does the Chinese Imperial gov type allow me to invite infidels and heretics to my court? Or are they more willing to accapt my invetation? I can reform my gov typ but I don't see any reason why I should do it.
Edit: Does it remove the revolt risk for different religions?
 

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When attacking other religions (case in point: as Castile attacking one of the muslim states) how can I determine which muslim rulers will join the war? They were not married, not in defensive pacts yet theyr all dogpiling in. I know its to do with religion, but nowhere did I see the Almoravids would throw their massive armies into my little war in Portugal. Can they always do this, based on distance, or what am I missing?
 

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When attacking other religions (case in point: as Castile attacking one of the muslim states) how can I determine which muslim rulers will join the war? They were not married, not in defensive pacts yet theyr all dogpiling in. I know its to do with religion, but nowhere did I see the Almoravids would throw their massive armies into my little war in Portugal. Can they always do this, based on distance, or what am I missing?


If you declare a holy war then yes any "nearby" nation of your target's religion can (and often will) join in on their side. If this is happening during a normal claim type war then it means they formed an alliance after the war started.
 

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If you declare a holy war then yes any "nearby" nation of your target's religion can (and often will) join in on their side. If this is happening during a normal claim type war then it means they formed an alliance after the war started.

Right, that makes some sense. And spawned a followup question: Can I see who count as "nearby" for this purpose?
 

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Right, that makes some sense. And spawned a followup question: Can I see who count as "nearby" for this purpose?
When I have been Orthodox Byzantium in the past I would get offers to join wars against the Seljuks from pretty much all the Russians. If you want to holy war people in Spain, you should probably expect all the Adalusians and some of the Moroccans.
 

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When I have been Orthodox Byzantium in the past I would get offers to join wars against the Seljuks from pretty much all the Russians. If you want to holy war people in Spain, you should probably expect all the Adalusians and some of the Moroccans.

Yea thats more or less whats happening: all of Iberia and since the guys holding Granada also have Morocco they bring their whole army too. But from your answers I take it there is no exact way of finding out (like fe. in EU4 the coalition mapmode and the tooltip in the peace treaty showing exactly who can join a coalition if do X)
 

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Right, that makes some sense. And spawned a followup question: Can I see who count as "nearby" for this purpose?

Anyone who borders your target is nearby for sure. I think that if one of the neighbors joins in, that that makes anyone who borders this ruler also "nearby", but I'm less sure of it. Either way, the AI will be prone to join if the attacker has more troops than the defender.
 

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Does the Chinese Imperial gov type allow me to invite infidels and heretics to my court? Or are they more willing to accapt my invetation? I can reform my gov typ but I don't see any reason why I should do it.
Edit: Does it remove the revolt risk for different religions?
It allows you to invite heathens, like always. They probably won't join unless you have the usual good reasons to move, such as claims.

I forgot the benefits of changing the government type, but I do know that if you do so, China may view you as a "rival Empire".

It does not remove the wrong religion penalties.