Crusader Kings II ~ Quick Answers

[Vasious]

Is there any reason to create titles as a Nomad?

 

[Dragatus]

No no. The fabricated claims were strong and become inherentable once you try to press them. Like I did. But I couldn't press them again after the failed war.
With the next ruler I had only weak claims which cannot pressed simutaniosly so I went for another strat.

Okay, so now that I understand what happened my hypothesis is the following. Fabricated claims can be pressed only once against a specific ruler. If you lose the war they can't be pressed again (at least not until the current ruler is replaced by his heir), but they will be inherited by your own heir as weak claims.

 

[Aardvark Bellay]

... Fabricated claims can be pressed only once against a specific ruler. If you lose the war they can't be pressed again (at least not until the current ruler is replaced by his heir)......

That would be absolute news to me.
Doubt it.

Rather i assume losing the earlier war turned the strong claims into weak ones and kmh42 didn't recognise this before the ruler died.

edit:
Then again....didn't losing a fabricated claim war make the claim go 'poof' ?
I forgot. Maybe there's some detail missing in the story.

 

[kmh42]

Rather i assume losing the earlier war turned the strong claims into weak ones and kmh42 didn't recognise this before the ruler died.

I am sure they didn't become weak.

I will test it when I am oin CK2 next time.

 

[Prestian]

I finally bought Horse Lords. The only DLC I have yet to buy is Jade Dragon now.

I want to do a nomad playthrough, but I'm wondering if it makes sense to start as a nomad without the Jade Dragon DLC? Would I be missing out too much in the Eurasian Steppes without Jade Dragon?

 

[Lord_Bean]

I finally bought Horse Lords. The only DLC I have yet to buy is Jade Dragon now.

I want to do a nomad playthrough, but I'm wondering if it makes sense to start as a nomad without the Jade Dragon DLC? Would I be missing out too much in the Eurasian Steppes without Jade Dragon?

I'd say both yes and no. And it also depends where you want to start as a nomad. With HL you'll already have access to the Silk road mechanics and all that nomads have to offer, so that should be entertaining in and of itself if you haven't played it before (it can get a bit blobby). Especially if you start more to the West, say with the Magyars or Khazars, and you focus your attention that way as well, you won't be missing much without JD.

If on the other hand you want to play with one of the Eastern horders such as the Mongols, you'll obviously be missing out on the interactions with China that JD offers. Whether or not you find that problematic is up to you, I've had many a fun game there long before JD was released, and this isn't a zero sum game; you can play a game there now and if you buy JD in the future you can always do another run, just like people who played there before.

TLDR; if you have the cash JD is a nice addition that will increase the value of a nomad game in the Eastern steppes. If you'd rather not spent the money right now you can still have a perfectly good game, and since nomas blob like hell, you'll probably be done with a campagin after the first 150-200 years anyway unless you want to do a KWC. Therefore you can even do one without and later with

 

[Ruisuki]

How can I change my heirs culture? I dont have rajas so i cant use the bs paywall change to capital culture feature.

I was under the impression i could change the focus of my children/grandchildren as long as it was before they were 10. I currently have a 9 year old set to thrift, trying to move to heritage. Doesnt show the option by right clicking portrait. I also have a vassal with different religion AND culture educating my heirs child, who as of one year now, has yet to ask me to change the focus. I then tried a vassal who was landed, and then even one outside my realm. None brought up the option, much less asked to change it themselves. Yet they do when educating an unimportant child.

I also tried 'clr_focus charid' and that does nothing. only 'clr_focus' for my own character. Im sick of having to wait another generation to have a raiding cultured ruler, first off whats the reason why the focus is messing up, and second what are my options in case that option is fucked beyond repair?

 

[faiuwle]

I'm pretty sure he must be being educated in your court for you to have this option.

 

[Guancyto]

Chinese Invasion destroys king and emperor level titles if it wins.

What does this do to Nomads, since king and emperor titles are 100% of their government form?

 

[Ruisuki]

I just destroyed the kingdom of ireland and of wales. Now I am wondering why i cant destroy the others, such as corsica, frisia, and brittany? The unfulfilled conditions says i dont meet the requirement of not having gavelkind, but I have elective succession, not elective gavelkind. I was able to destroy the other two so why not these?

I'm pretty sure he must be being educated in your court for you to have this option.

is this true? Ive been trying to change culture for generations now

 

[Lord_Bean]

I just destroyed the kingdom of ireland and of wales. Now I am wondering why i cant destroy the others, such as corsica, frisia, and brittany? The unfulfilled conditions says i dont meet the requirement of not having gavelkind, but I have elective succession? I was able to destroy the other two so why not these?

Are you 100% sure that the affected titles have elective succession and not gavelkind? Kingdoms each have their own succession laws, which may differ from the primary Kingdom/Empire. You can see which Kingdom has which succession law by going to the inheritance screen and clicking the title shield of the resepctive Kingdom.

 

[Rydelfox]

Different kingdoms can have different succession laws. Your main government may have elective, while those still have gavelkind. Either cursor over their CoAs and check the tooltip, or click on their CoAs in the law screen to make sure they are actually elective

 

[Ruisuki]

Are you 100% sure that the affected titles have elective succession and not gavelkind? Kingdoms each have their own succession laws, which may differ from the primary Kingdom/Empire. You can see which Kingdom has which succession law by going to the inheritance screen and clicking the title shield of the resepctive Kingdom.

of the kingdoms only corsica kingdom has gavelkind(how do i change this?). the duchy of corsica is held by my vassal and is gavelkind. The other kingdoms such as brittany and frisia are not gavelkind but cant destroy them.

 

[Lord_Bean]

of the kingdoms only corsica kingdom has gavelkind(how do i change this?). the duchy of corsica is held by my vassal and is gavelkind. The other kingdoms such as brittany and frisia are not gavelkind but cant destroy them.

I have seen quite a few threads before which had the same issue; one Kingdom is gavelkind, preventing the destruction of some, but not necessarily all, other Kingdom titles. I've never seen any of these threads come to convincing conclusions as to what caused which title to be (non)-destroyable. Theories seem to be;

1) if you have gavelkind on any Kingdom title you can't destroy any other Kingdom title, since that would still end up having less titles to distribute, negating some of gavelkinds effects. This is partly true, but doesn't explain why some titles can be destroyed. It could be due to them being secondary titles going to the primary heir anyway, so destroying them wouldn't change any other inheritance, but it is unclear.
2) the crown laws of the de jure empire a Kingdom belongs to may be gavelkind even if it is uncreated, therefore you can't destory them. Although older threads seem to show this to be nonsense, with some Kingdoms in the same empire being destroyable and others not.
3) gavelkind just causes weird stuff like this due to it's complicated nature.

So not really a satisfying answer from me I'm affraid. Best bet would be to change the inheritance law for the Kingdom of Corsica away from gavelkind and hope that resolves the issue. The inheritance laws of Duchies shouldn't matter as far as I know.

 

[Duc]

My threat is 99.7% literally the whole world is in a pact against me. However, every time I quit the game and resume playing, all Christian rulers will one by one shortly leave the pack for about half to one month in-game before joining it again. I've been exploiting this to conquer them without having to fight the whole world but still if it's a bug it wouldn't be nice. Does anyone else experience this? Do you know why?

 

[kmh42]

My threat is 99.7% literally the whole world is in a pact against me. However, every time I quit the game and resume playing, all Christian rulers will one by one shortly leave the pack for about half to one month in-game before joining it again. I've been exploiting this to conquer them without having to fight the whole world but still if it's a bug it wouldn't be nice. Does anyone else experience this? Do you know why?

I experience this too. I don't know if this is already been reported.

 

[faiuwle]

is this true? Ive been trying to change culture for generations now

I mean, if changing to heritage focus isn't working for some reason, you can always just set your heir's focus to heritage in the first place before sending them to be educated.

 

[Ruisuki]

When i load my save it shows no characters when i click any piece of land, shows year 1066. ????

I have seen quite a few threads before which had the same issue; one Kingdom is gavelkind, preventing the destruction of some, but not necessarily all, other Kingdom titles. I've never seen any of these threads come to convincing conclusions as to what caused which title to be (non)-destroyable. Theories seem to be;

1) if you have gavelkind on any Kingdom title you can't destroy any other Kingdom title, since that would still end up having less titles to distribute, negating some of gavelkinds effects. This is partly true, but doesn't explain why some titles can be destroyed. It could be due to them being secondary titles going to the primary heir anyway, so destroying them wouldn't change any other inheritance, but it is unclear.
2) the crown laws of the de jure empire a Kingdom belongs to may be gavelkind even if it is uncreated, therefore you can't destory them. Although older threads seem to show this to be nonsense, with some Kingdoms in the same empire being destroyable and others not.
3) gavelkind just causes weird stuff like this due to it's complicated nature.

So not really a satisfying answer from me I'm affraid. Best bet would be to change the inheritance law for the Kingdom of Corsica away from gavelkind and hope that resolves the issue. The inheritance laws of Duchies shouldn't matter as far as I know.

thank you, the first section seems the most likely. That and the third, gavelkind is tripping out.

I mean, if changing to heritage focus isn't working for some reason, you can always just set your heir's focus to heritage in the first place before sending them to be educated.

I already had him set to thrift and the 'clr_focus charid" doesnt work so education seems bugged?

 

[faiuwle]

When i load my save it shows no characters when i click any piece of land, shows year 1066. ????

Is it from a version earlier than 2.8?

 

[Ruisuki]

Is it from a version earlier than 2.8?

nah its the latest game no mods. I had to load to an earlier save and it seems to have gone away. It affected quite a few of my saves in that same month though.