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Message settings. Earlier i always had pop up message informing me that inherited a title. Now it must be a low prority message and only notice it because are over demense limit. Tried making message settings to high priority but can not find the right one.
 

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In what case does agnatic succession trace through women? I had a vassal whose heir was his late second (older) sister's son of another dynasty, even though he had a few legitimate paternal uncles living in his court, and it persisted after reloading, recalc_succ <char_id>, and the title actually passed away if he dies. Things went back to normal after he sired a son of his own.

Is this WAD? Has anyone seen the same thing?
 

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In what case does agnatic succession trace through women? I had a vassal whose heir was his late second (older) sister's son of another dynasty, even though he had a few legitimate paternal uncles living in his court, and it persisted after reloading, recalc_succ <char_id>, and the title actually passed away if he dies. Things went back to normal after he sired a son of his own.

Is this WAD? Has anyone seen the same thing?
The dynasty does not matter. I suppose in your example it was primo-agnatic - then it firstly checks all eligible descendants - and it found at least one eligible grandson. Even if he is of other dynasty - he can and will inherit. Why would you think this is not WAD?
And ofc - when your vassal got son he will be first to inherit under both agnatic and agnatic-cognatic.
 

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The dynasty does not matter. I suppose in your example it was primo-agnatic - then it firstly checks all eligible descendants - and it found at least one eligible grandson. Even if he is of other dynasty - he can and will inherit. Why would you think this is not WAD?
And ofc - when your vassal got son he will be first to inherit under both agnatic and agnatic-cognatic.
Doesn't agnatic = no women allowed?
 

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Doesn't agnatic = no women allowed?
They are skipped, I suppose. In my understanding - under agnatic they are treated as eunuchs or dead persons.
On a side note - would like to hear from other witty community members :)
UPD: Can you check now inheritance queue for that vassals title? And post screenshots please
 

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UPD: Can you check now inheritance queue for that vassals title? And post screenshots please
I guess so. Here:
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After:
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Screenshots shows a bit of a different story
Vassal have gavelkind. And under gavelkind sons of dead sister or dead daughter will inherit if you (this time - your vassal) have no sons.
Gavelkind has kinda mess details in CK2 - you can delve deeper here
 

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Doesn't agnatic = no women allowed?

Even if women can't inherit titles, in a primo succession, if they have a son and that you don't have any other eligible male children, this grandson will be first in line even if he's not from your dynasty.

That's why in my agnatic games, I always make sure I have enough males with sons to secure my dynasty. You don't want a game over because you married your eldest daughter to some nobody duke from another dynasty :p
 

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Screenshots shows a bit of a different story
Vassal have gavelkind. And under gavelkind sons of dead sister or dead daughter will inherit if you (this time - your vassal) have no sons.
Gavelkind has kinda mess details in CK2 - you can delve deeper here
Wait what? Sons of dead and only dead sisters can inherit? This is no doubt a bug.
Even if women can't inherit titles, in a primo succession, if they have a son and that you don't have any other eligible male children, this grandson will be first in line even if he's not from your dynasty.

That's why in my agnatic games, I always make sure I have enough males with sons to secure my dynasty. You don't want a game over because you married your eldest daughter to some nobody duke from another dynasty :p
Look closer, sons of the living sister can't inherit, only the sons of the dead sister can.
 

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I believe I have some memory of hearing an assertion that if a holding is occupied in a war for a certain number of years, even if the occupier has no claim to it, they can take it under some circumstances. Another possibility is that what I heard was, if one does have a claim on a holding which they then occupy in a war not specifically started to push that claim, such as a defensive war, then they may somehow hold onto it when the war ends.
Does anybody know whether the former in particular is true, that simply occupying a holding for a war that drags out long enough will allow it to be taken?
 

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I believe I have some memory of hearing an assertion that if a holding is occupied in a war for a certain number of years, even if the occupier has no claim to it, they can take it under some circumstances. Another possibility is that what I heard was, if one does have a claim on a holding which they then occupy in a war not specifically started to push that claim, such as a defensive war, then they may somehow hold onto it when the war ends.
Does anybody know whether the former in particular is true, that simply occupying a holding for a war that drags out long enough will allow it to be taken?
Some kind of old hags myth here :D
Or a naaaaaasty bug :confused:
 

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Does anybody know whether the former in particular is true, that simply occupying a holding for a war that drags out long enough will allow it to be taken?

Not true.
What works though is if you press a war for a strong claim and create another during the war, then you (can) get both in the peace deal.


...or a new bug in the Jade DLC with all these new CBs included...
 

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I think the war you start must be specifically for pressing all claims. so you'd need to have at least two different claims to begin with.