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If you lose, you'll be imprisoned and your liege will have cause to revoke one of your titles. If you're worried about losing at this point, I would try to get a white peace, which IIRC will prevent this.

Are you certain this is still true? I know it was (and it was this way for a long time), but I recall recently NOT being allowed to imprison/punish the son of a rebelling vassal when the next war ended. It may have been a secondary participant (i.e. co-rebel of a faction, not faction leader), but something struck me as different.
 

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Ok thanks! I am pretty sure I can get a white peace here but I'm not quite sure how am I going to secure an heir. I didn't actually know that if I don't have titles that the game would end.

Anyway, the war is kind of in a stalemate situation where my army was actually defeated by a random French ally and king of Leon has no armies because he fought with Galicia for like 10 years and got soundly beaten. I already sieged through Leon and 2 out of 3 holdings before the French came, so he will not get much troops to fight with in the near future :D
Ok, if you aren't in a matrilineal marriage, you need to do one of three things to avoid game over.
  • If you have no children yet, use Seduction focus, birth a bastard son, and legitimize him. This will ensure you keep the county at least.
  • If you have any siblings, switch to elective succession and nominate them as your heir.
  • If you have no siblings and already have children with your husband, birth a bastard as in option 1, switch to elective, and nominate them as your heir.

Are you certain this is still true? I know it was (and it was this way for a long time), but I recall recently NOT being allowed to imprison/punish the son of a rebelling vassal when the next war ended. It may have been a secondary participant (i.e. co-rebel of a faction, not faction leader), but something struck me as different.
No, I'm not entirely sure about that. Thanks to Conclave it's been a long time since I had to deal with a major revolt. But if I'm remembering correctly, either the liege Enforcing Demands or the rebel leader Surrendering will still have all rebelling vassals imprisoned whether they were present for the start of the war or not. I know I saw it in 2.5 when the leader of the revolt was killed in action and his prepubescent son inherited. Less sure about title revocation.
 

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That's strange. Are you actually getting a title loss on succession warning? Duchies and counties are supposed to have their succession laws suppressed by their holder's primary title. That said elective does act like primogeniture for all lower titles whenever the heir elect is not of your dynasty. Can you double check who you're voting for and what their dynasty is?

I double-checked, and I think the problem is that while my Genius son is the chosen candidate for King of Frisia, he's not the chosen candidate for the Emperorship, so all my subsidiary titles are reverting to primogeniture. I come bearing pics. First, here's my son the dullard:

Dullard-Son.png


Here's my law screen:

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Here's my main heir:

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Is there any way to fix this without murdering everyone ahead of my desired heir?
 

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Also, is there any way to maximize the chance of Prince Theodolf dying heroically in battle? I've sent him to lead units of 500 against the Caliph's 18,000 twice thrice, and he's lost all his men but escaped personally both three times.
 
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I know him being brave will make it more likely and being craven will make it less likely.
Have you tried just putting him on a boat, sending it to sea, and letting him get scurvy?
 

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I know him being brave will make it more likely and being craven will make it less likely.

He's craven as well as dull. Just another reason it's best for us all that he dies "heroically".

Have you tried just putting him on a boat, sending it to sea, and letting him get scurvy?

Didn't know that could happen! Thanks, I'll give that a try. Wait, does that require Reaper's Due? Because I don't have that DLC yet.
 

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Also, is there any way to maximize the chance of Prince Theodolf dying heroically in battle? I've sent him to lead units of 500 against the Caliph's 18,000 twice thrice, and he's lost all his men but escaped personally both three times.
Here's what I would do. How about you win your war against the caliph, and then grant Theodolf a bishopric you freed up by doing so. That will disinherit him for sure.
 

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That's how I handled my other unwanted heir, but apparently I can't make anyone who's already an heir into a bishop.
Well, you could let him inherit, not have any kids, and then take Rulership focus to become depressed so you can commit suicide.
 

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You're a Catholic Emperor. Create an anti-pope, excommunicate your eldest son, throw him in prison (no one will care, because excommunicated), force him to take the vows (which you can do because he's unlanded, unmarried, and in your prison even though he's an heir). Out of the line of succession. Plus then you can press your anti-pope's claim and make good use of that, too.
 

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Also, is there any way to maximize the chance of Prince Theodolf dying heroically in battle? I've sent him to lead units of 500 against the Caliph's 18,000 twice thrice, and he's lost all his men but escaped personally both three times.

I know him being brave will make it more likely and being craven will make it less likely.
Have you tried just putting him on a boat, sending it to sea, and letting him get scurvy?

He's craven as well as dull. Just another reason it's best for us all that he dies "heroically".



Didn't know that could happen! Thanks, I'll give that a try. Wait, does that require Reaper's Due? Because I don't have that DLC yet.

As far as I know, your suiciding of 500 men is actually ill-advised -- my understanding is that the rolls for commander deaths happen over time during a battle, so the insta-squish you get in a 500 vs 18000 does almost nothing compared to a prolonged 18000 v 18000 slugfest.
 

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Is the Scandinavian empire DE jure capital being Uppland most likely just paradox being a little cheeky, or is there at least some arguable historical thread to it?

Just for the record you can edit the capitals in common\landed_titles\landed_titles.txt if you want to (and didn't already know), obviously I'm biased here but I always change it to 266, the Sjaelland province, which I absolutely believe is the most fair one objectively speaking too, because of the Kalmar Union, the only time Scandinavia was ever fairly united - but we'll never convince those dirty Swedes about that :)
 

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Do identical artifact bonuses stack ?
 

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Can the pope declare a crusade for Rome if its owned by orthodoxes?
If I remember they cant holy war each other..Can someone confirm?
No. Only pagans and Muslims can declare religious wars on members of other denominations in the same religious group.
 

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  • Cities: Skylines
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Prison Architect
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
Thanks for the answers to my previous question...
Another thing..Is there any way to get rid of the ingredients? Since we cant use them yet , or give them away its annoying to have them in my inventory..