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As a King, with Conclave, it may actually be better not to create all Duchy titles. I usually parcel out small 3 County duchies to more powerful dukes. Dukes which I tend to keep on the council more often. It's pretty stable, and feels more role playing. I would occasionally raise a lowborn, provided he's a friend of my character.
 

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I reformed West Africans and transformed to a merchant republic. Now I cannot give pagan honorary title (VenElders, Masters etc.) - only the MR's. Is this WAD or a bug?
Because when I was playing as feudal reformed Slavic I kept my pagan titles.

You are a merchant republic now and not feudal, thus different honorary titles.
 

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So how transfer vassalage works? How it will help me to "fix" my duchies?
When you have a ruler who has ruled for a long time and everybody loves him start retracting some vassals from dukes (ones that aren't their de jure vassals!) and give them to their rightful ruler. They won't like it and everyone gets a -5 every time you do that, but it means you can take away vassals put them where they belong.

Doesn't help with rulers have their demesne in weird places though. There is not much you can do about that unless they give you a reason to revoke titles.
 

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Quick question: does HL (or another DLC) remove the old popup with the fist icon warning you of an impending adventurer coming to attack you? I liked that mechanic.

No, it doesn't remove it.
If you don't see it while you should , check the outliner and its configuration settings for disabled alerts.
http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Notifications#Alerts
 

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When I was playing as Pagan Chief of Lesser Poland after I had Become a king of Poland ambition I was able to attack any county which was part of De Jure Kingdorm of Poland.
I have started a new game as a small county in Ireland. I have Become king of Ireland ambition but I don't have Subjugation (or any other valid) CB on other counties which are De Jure part of Ireland.

Why is that? Its because Chiefdom of Lesser Poland was Pagan and in Ireland my character is Catholic?
Do I need 51% of Ireland lands in my demesne to receive CB for the rest of Ireland
 

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Right, only pagans have subjugation, AFAIK the only thing the become king ambition does for Catholics is reduce the cost of creating the kingdom. Once you create Ireland you'll have de jure claims on anything in Ireland you don't own, but annoyingly you have to war for it one county at a time.
 

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I have the Empire of Germania, if I set Vassal Wars law to External will that affect all the De jure territory - Kingdoms of Saxony, Bavaria, Germany, Bohemia? Or do I have to set it for every Kingdom separately, why is it even an option for the empire title then?
 

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How many lovers can one person have at the same time as a maximum? I thought it was four, but my current Empress has five. (Useful for vassal management.)
 

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How many lovers can one person have at the same time as a maximum? I thought it was four, but my current Empress has five. (Useful for vassal management.)

As far as I'm aware there's no limit. However, once you get past a certain number you'll start getting events about having too many that cause you to break up or get stressed and such.
 

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As far as I'm aware there's no limit. However, once you get past a certain number you'll start getting events about having too many that cause you to break up or get stressed and such.

I am aware of these events, and prepared to deal with it. Thanks for the info!
 

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If the vassal which is holding a county which is a part of some duchy will conquer another county, this county will be automatically assigned to the duchy?
I am asking because one of my vassals conqured county and it was assigned to main duchy which is quite far away and it looks strange.
If not, why this county became a part of duchy?
To be clear - this vassal is my direct vassal.
Also, is it possible to create duchies as they are in de jure state?
If yes - how?
Screenshot attached.

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30 min later I gave a county to a vassal which already has another county in that duchy and this county became part of this duchy. I am so lost. Why the heck is that???

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I have the Empire of Germania, if I set Vassal Wars law to External will that affect all the De jure territory - Kingdoms of Saxony, Bavaria, Germany, Bohemia? Or do I have to set it for every Kingdom separately, why is it even an option for the empire title then?
I think that allows you to make separate settings for kingdoms you yourself hold. For example I acquired Saxony with messed-up ducal borders as Germania but allowing internal vassal wars meant the problem corrected itself over time (the dukes took back counties that de jure belonged to them, and then the King of Germany took a couple counties that should have been his from the Duke of Holstein). The empire's law is applied where you don't hold the kingdom.

If the vassal which is holding a county which is a part of some duchy will conquer another county, this county will be automatically assigned to the duchy?
I am asking because one of my vassals conqured county and it was assigned to main duchy which is quite far away and it looks strange.
If not, why this county became a part of duchy?
To be clear - this vassal is my direct vassal.
Also, is it possible to create duchies as they are in de jure state?
If yes - how?
Screenshot attached.

View attachment 239469

30 min later I gave a county to a vassal which already has another county in that duchy and this county became part of this duchy. I am so lost. Why the heck is that???

Screenshot

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I think you mean, your duke vassal conquered a county, in which case, yes, the county becomes part of his lands (though it won't ever become de jure part of his duchy since only duchies and kingdoms can be assimilated into different higher titles than they started). And since they're his lands, they're also your lands as his liege.

As for your second question, if you're asking if you can clean up your internal borders so that your various vassals only hold the titles that should be theirs de jure, yes. Mainly what you need is to pass title revocation law, which allows you to seize titles from vassals. Normally this incurs tyranny opinion penalties with other vassals, but:
  • If you have a claim on a vassal's title you can revoke it without tyranny.
  • If they rebel and you defeat them, you have cause to revoke one title without tyranny.
  • If you pass Religious Revocation law, you can revoke any title held by an infidel or heretic and will incur tyranny only with vassals who share that religion.
  • There is also a plot on the Intrigue menu that allows you to conspire with other vassals and demand that a vassal give up a title under certain conditions. The title must either be non-de jure (say, a Duke of Scania who also holds Fyn in the Duchy of Sjaelland), or be in a duchy that you yourself hold. You get to 80% plot power and then issue an ultimatum, and this will usually trigger a rebellion that you can use as an excuse to revoke a second title.
 

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How can you expand as a vassal when your emperor has the No war declaration law ? Is there a way to repell it ?
 

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Why is that? Its because Chiefdom of Lesser Poland was Pagan and in Ireland my character is Catholic?
Do I need 51% of Ireland lands in my demesne to receive CB for the rest of Ireland

That's right, only pagans have subjugation CB. Other get the ability to fabricate a claim on the kingdom, if it exists. If you create the kingdom of Ireland you will have de jure claim CB on every county in it

Basically, because MR's capital is city - they do not get bonuses from cultural buildings for cultural retinue?
If yes - that's a shame :(

I haven't tested it, but I read that if you build a castle in the province the cultural buildings of the castle will affect retinues.

How can you expand as a vassal when your emperor has the No war declaration law ? Is there a way to repell it ?

I don't have Conclave myself, but from what I understand you'd have to get on the council for that and start a vote. Might require your liege owing you a favor.
 

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I don't have Conclave myself, but from what I understand you'd have to get on the council for that and start a vote. Might require your liege owing you a favor.
My liege owes me a favor and I'm his Steward, so I guess I could do it. I might have to bribe the other councillors since they don't seem to want to be able to expand, but since my income is quite high it'll only be a matter of time.
Thanks !
 

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I think that allows you to make separate settings for kingdoms you yourself hold. For example I acquired Saxony with messed-up ducal borders as Germania but allowing internal vassal wars meant the problem corrected itself over time (the dukes took back counties that de jure belonged to them, and then the King of Germany took a couple counties that should have been his from the Duke of Holstein). The empire's law is applied where you don't hold the kingdom.


I think you mean, your duke vassal conquered a county, in which case, yes, the county becomes part of his lands (though it won't ever become de jure part of his duchy since only duchies and kingdoms can be assimilated into different higher titles than they started). And since they're his lands, they're also your lands as his liege.

As for your second question, if you're asking if you can clean up your internal borders so that your various vassals only hold the titles that should be theirs de jure, yes. Mainly what you need is to pass title revocation law, which allows you to seize titles from vassals. Normally this incurs tyranny opinion penalties with other vassals, but:
  • If you have a claim on a vassal's title you can revoke it without tyranny.
  • If they rebel and you defeat them, you have cause to revoke one title without tyranny.
  • If you pass Religious Revocation law, you can revoke any title held by an infidel or heretic and will incur tyranny only with vassals who share that religion.
  • There is also a plot on the Intrigue menu that allows you to conspire with other vassals and demand that a vassal give up a title under certain conditions. The title must either be non-de jure (say, a Duke of Scania who also holds Fyn in the Duchy of Sjaelland), or be in a duchy that you yourself hold. You get to 80% plot power and then issue an ultimatum, and this will usually trigger a rebellion that you can use as an excuse to revoke a second title.

But if I will not revoke It I understand that having a mess in my Duchies is quite normal. So each Duchy can contain many counties which are not bordered.
For example is it normal that one duchy has county on the west part of my realm, one in the middle and last on on the east.
Is that correct?

In another example this guy has his own vassal in Sacz province who is holding a City but still Sacz for some reason is a part of Greater Poland. It is so confusing for me.

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I haven't tested it, but I read that if you build a castle in the province the cultural buildings of the castle will affect retinues.
I hope so too. If only someone can confirm this. :oops: I want to understand - shall I commit to berber cavalry if hopes, that it will get additional bonus from moorish barracks, or should I go standard retinues with mixed properties.
 

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But if I will not revoke It I understand that having a mess in my Duchies is quite normal. So each Duchy can contain many counties which are not bordered.
For example is it normal that one duchy has county on the west part of my realm, one in the middle and last on on the east.
Is that correct?
I wouldn't say necessarily say "correct" but inheritance and conquest can do funny things to borders.

In another example this guy has his own vassal in Sacz province who is holding a City but still Sacz for some reason is a part of Greater Poland. It is so confusing for me.

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With that one there's not much you can do, and honestly the risk outweighs the reward. Among other things, for every misplaced title, the guy who should control it ("de jure") gets a -25 opinion towards the guy who actually controls it ("de facto"), which if vassal-on-vassal means they like each other less and are therefore less likely to work together against their liege.