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I have got a blank spot and a dead character taking up slots in my "Special Interest" persons list. clicking on either slot brings up the dead character and right-clicking does nothing (so I can't simply remove them from the list). I think they appeared because I had made the special eunuch character tyhe Bzant emperors sometimes get a person of interest and this happened on the emperor's death. I've lived with it for a while, but it's starting to get in my way. Does anyone know how to deal with this or where to post to find someone that might (via editing the save, maybe? I can at least maybe take the named one out if I knew what to alter.)

Edit: As often happens, I found it thirty seconds after I made the post - in the uncompressed save, there's a list of numbers (character IDs) under "special_interest" (found it by find/replace "special" - quick check found the second number pertained to said chraracter and the other number not found... Deleted both numbers, so that should work...

Edit edit: Yep, that worked... Worth noting in the unlikely event anyone else has the issue and googles it...
 
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There is a shia event. The one you got.
Dynasty is random.
One trigger for it to happen i think is if no shiite kingdom exists, but i'm not sure.
Whatever, currently these kind of events fail the very most of the time, it seems to me.

Not sure why.
Maybe stupid AI army behaviour or weak troops or maybe they don't get their commanders assigned or altogether and the events require an update...
These events need to get worked on...somehow.
The short answer: No, regarding the Fatimids.
Thanks for the response.
There was no Shia' kingdom at this time (and there is still none; I'm still Sunni but converted to Shia' most of my branch of the dynasty). I will be the Fatimids then... somewhat.
The event targeted the Samanid Realm (Afghanistan) but it seems that it failed.
 

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Thanks for the response.
There was no Shia' kingdom at this time (and there is still none; I'm still Sunni but converted to Shia' most of my branch of the dynasty). I will be the Fatimids then... somewhat.
The event targeted the Samanid Realm (Afghanistan) but it seems that it failed.

It might be on purpose currently to be very rare (it used to be more common).
Then of course they dont have to work on it, but my impression is not that it's on purpose as it is now.
Target kingdom is (muslim) random.
I actually have seen it succeed once or twice, but usualy the realm was then too weak and reconquered by sunni armies over something like fifty years.
 

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Another little questions: When beginning at the Old Gods bookmark, will the Fatimids appear at some point. Is there a special event allowing for Shia' Islam to take a bit of power?
I'm building an Egyptian Shia' realm and I am in the 940's so I already got the Rise of the Shia' pop-up but is it even relevant?

There is a shia event. The one you got.
Dynasty is random.
One trigger for it to happen i think is if no shiite kingdom exists, but i'm not sure.
Whatever, currently these kind of events fail the very most of the time, it seems to me.

Not sure why.
Maybe stupid AI army behaviour or weak troops or maybe they don't get their commanders assigned or altogether and the events require an update...
These events need to get worked on...somehow.
The short answer: No, regarding the Fatimids.

It might be on purpose currently to be very rare (it used to be more common).
Then of course they dont have to work on it, but my impression is not that it's on purpose as it is now.
Target kingdom is (muslim) random.
I actually have seen it succeed once or twice, but usualy the realm was then too weak and reconquered by sunni armies over something like fifty years.

I'm a little puzzled by the question, "Will the Fatimids appear at some point?"

The Fatimids are already there in the old gods start as vassals of the Emirs of Damascus under the Abbasids.

Also, if you are interested in playing a Shia during this time, look at the Idrisids. They are a Shia dynasty that rule Mauretania (Morocco) in the Old God bookmark. They even have the Sayyid trait

Also, regarding the Rise of the Shia event, really, part of the problem with it is that is bases it's event troops around the CURRENT strength of the realm it's attacking. This means, if it fires right after a nasty civil war, the Shia forces will not have all that many troops, while the levies of the realm they are attacking will rapidly refill and the Shia uprising will be crushed in short order.
 
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OK I did not notice them. Now I found them but they are not Shia anymore. I dunno if they were at the beginning.
I would have searched them around Maghreb instead, since their empire began expanding from there. But nevermind.
About my original question, I was refering to their Empire more than to whether their dynasty was already present in the game. The rise of a Shia Caliphate seems like a strong event in terms of narrative so I wanted to know if there was something like that... It is even more interesting for me since my realm is currently in Egypt. But I will form this Shia Caliphate and fill the void ^^

And I allied with the Idrisids in my game. They also seem interesting to play, with their interactions with the Umayyads.
 

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Okay, so twice now I've had AI mercenary captains come up to me and say their current liege isn't paying up, so they're settling in my lands. So in my Ireland game I ended up with the leader of the Irish Band residing in Cill Dara, and now in my Mosul game it's some Khazar mercs.

What the heck can I do with these guys besides hiring them? Do I get a discount or something because they're settled in my lands? Can I vassalize them at Empire level if I have the same culture?
Just an update to this query, I went back to my Ireland game and was able to vassalize the Knights of Calatrava because their new grandmaster is one of my Irish relatives, but the option to vassalize the Irish Band doesn't even appear on the diplomatic menu.

I can not, for the life of me, figure out why I can't revoke one character's titles. I can revoke every body else's, of same de jure kingom, same dutchy. I own the dutchy, he is not a duke, therefore it also can't be because it's his last landed title, heck, he owns two counties and nothing else.

I just can't damn SEND the revokation, the tooltip says I can't do it because my laws don't allow for it, but I don't own conlave and my laws are one step further than they would need to be. It also can't really be that, because as I explained, all other vassals DON'T have that unchecked in their tooltip, even those under the same dutchy.

I do not have a truce with him.

I did not grant it to him recently, nor did anybody else. He inherited it more than two years ago, and before him it was owned by his family for two generations.

He is a tribal vassal, so nobody gives a shit, not even the other tribals. I already revoked two other tribals in the same dutchy without complaints.

I just can't figure it out. Am I missing YET ANOTHER requirement? Is there some kind of debug command that let's me figure out which flag exactly does not work and why? At this point I am almost convinced it's a bug, but multiple restarts did not solve this either.
Do you have a non-aggression pact with the character? That blocks title revocation.
 
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I have just conducted a blitzkrieg across Hispania as Rome. I have got the option to create Andulsia and Portugal as kingdoms.

I am guessing that there isn't much point in the latter, yes, given that I want to minimise the number of direct vassals I have and that creating a titular kingdom is more useful got smaller nations to get a leg up, but not an empire?


Edit: Hang on, can I use the titular title of "Portugal" to create a kingdom not anywhere near Portugal (i.e. using some duchies in Greece and/or Italy (where I've thus avoided cvreatig the kingdoms on account of having my own demesne there) - I've been passing those dutches out slowly, one each or so to neighbouring Kingdoms - but this might be a faster way...?
 
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Yes, you could give titular titles to group together any group of vassals anywhere, since they have no de Jure lands. After 100 years under the titular title, it'll become de Jure. So you could give half of Italy (the half you don't rule personally) to your vassal king of Italy. After 100 years, the de Jure kingdom of Italy will have been reduced to just your demesne, and the rest of 'Italy' will be de Jure Portugal.
As for putting all of Hispania under a single King: I would spread that land under several (2 seems good) kings. There's some use to having less direct vassals, but it's a balancing act with not having your vassals grow to powerful.
 

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Yes, you could give titular titles to group together any group of vassals anywhere, since they have no de Jure lands. After 100 years under the titular title, it'll become de Jure. So you could give half of Italy (the half you don't rule personally) to your vassal king of Italy. After 100 years, the de Jure kingdom of Italy will have been reduced to just your demesne, and the rest of 'Italy' will be de Jure Portugal.
As for putting all of Hispania under a single King: I would spread that land under several (2 seems good) kings. There's some use to having less direct vassals, but it's a balancing act with not having your vassals grow to powerful.

Okay - definitely worth doing, then... From what I've been able to determine, the only way to do this is to give the king the duchies I want to assimilate yes? I don't appear to be just be able to transfer duchy vassalage to an exarch directly (the strategos don't show up in the list unless they're part of the de jure kingdom).

Hispania at the moment has a few kingdoms - Andelusia ia about the lower half-ish, but there's Leon and Galatia to the north which I will get eventually. Hopefully that shuld be enough to keep it reasonably in line...!




I had an event to convert to Cathar (I'm orthodox at the moment). I'm sorely tempted, just for the access to female inheritance. But 1), I'm not sure what effect it will have on my taem Holy Order and the Varangian Guard and 2) Catharism seems kinda weak in EUIV (where the save is heading).

Related issue - in the Absolute Cognatic succession requirements, it has "one of these must be true: must be Cathar (etc) or Roman Empire: Law Full Status of Women."

I don't have Conclave (let alone have it active), so I'm a bit puzzled as to where/how to activate that Full Status of Women law. It sounds as if it should be something in Conclave, but why then it should show up in a non-conclave game...? Any ideas?



Second question - you have to be Cathar to change the sucession laws, yes - but once it's passed, do you have to STAY Cathar? I.e. if the emperor converts, changes the law and dies, does the sucession law stay...?
 
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Guys, I'm with a problem hopefully you can help me with.

I'm King of Andalusia and Castille. I claimed and won the war for the Kingdom of Léon. The previous Queen of Léon is now my vassal (she hates me hard). My problem is: the Queen got herself into a regular marriage (!) with a Count so... somehow... her daughter is the heir to MY title of Léon. How is this possible and - more importantly - how do I stop it?
 

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Related issue - in the Absolute Cognatic succession requirements, it has "one of these must be true: must be Cathar (etc) or Roman Empire: Law Full Status of Women."
If you don't have Conclave, you can't use Full status of Women. It uses the word 'or'
Second question - you have to be Cathar to change the sucession laws, yes - but once it's passed, do you have to STAY Cathar? I.e. if the emperor converts, changes the law and dies, does the sucession law stay...?
No. The succession Law would remain the same. Hence converting to Basque culture was a popular way to get cognatic.
Any answer to this?
Not all mods break achievements. If they interfere with mechanics, events etc they do. Some graphics mods do not break A's. I would check what the modder has said.
I'm King of Andalusia and Castille. I claimed and won the war for the Kingdom of Léon. The previous Queen of Léon is now my vassal (she hates me hard). My problem is: the Queen got herself into a regular marriage (!) with a Count so... somehow... her daughter is the heir to MY title of Léon. How is this possible and - more importantly - how do I stop it?
What is the Succession Law, and is it acting correctly?
If you have just taken the title, You may need to wait for it to recalculate the succession.
Need input.
 
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If you don't have Conclave, you can't use Full status of Women. It uses the word 'or'

Okay. It just seemed odd that it should even appear at all without Conclave.

No. The succession Law would remain the same. Hence converting to Basque culture was a popular way to get cognatic.

Goodo; I'm trying as an experiment (stupid vassal revolting against other vassal) to briefly dip into Cathar long enough to enact the law and then convert back. Nice to know that having gone through all the rigamarole, it won't just kick me back...!


Edit: Frack yes...! After about four or five chain assassinations to kill a vassal-of-a-vassal revolt, I was able to enact the law and within the month, a courtier asked me to convert back and BAM! Done, holy order back up. Phew!
 
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Edit: Frack yes...! After about four or five chain assassinations to kill a vassal-of-a-vassal revolt, I was able to enact the law and within the month, a courtier asked me to convert back and BAM! Done, holy order back up. Phew!
;)
You could also have used the "abandon heresy" decision. or, assuming your capital was the desired religion, convert to local religion.
 

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Agnatic cognatic gavelkind. I don't know if it's acting correctly...
Agnatic Cognatic gavelkind should go to your sons. If you have no sons, to your daughters, and otherwise defaults to primogeniture.
Sounds like the succession has not been recalculated, so give it time. the succession is recalculated by several occurances, eg havcing a new kid, death, etc.
 

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Agnatic Cognatic gavelkind should go to your sons. If you have no sons, to your daughters, and otherwise defaults to primogeniture.
Sounds like the succession has not been recalculated, so give it time. the succession is recalculated by several occurances, eg havcing a new kid, death, etc.

It's already recalculated! I won't lose the Kingdom, but I may lose the titles her mother has (two duchies & four counties). I assume this will only happen if the father dies first, giving her a county and making a vassal of another liege, right? How can I stop this?
 

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It's already recalculated! I won't lose the Kingdom, but I may lose the titles her mother has (two duchies & four counties). I assume this will only happen if the father dies first, giving her a county and making a vassal of another liege, right? How can I stop this?
Oh, I see her titles are leaving the realm.

If she dies first, Her daughter will inherit her lands, and when her father dies, she will inherit his. The highest level title will determine who gets the vassal.
In this case, you've stated that the mother has 2 duchies, while her spouse has a county. On death, you will keep the vassal, as county is lower than duchy. If titles are equal, the vassal goes to the liege who is first to die.
 

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Oh, I see her titles are leaving the realm.
Oh. At first it was *my* title leaving the realm. That's why I thought it was strange. But you were right, the game just hadn't caught up.

If she dies first, Her daughter will inherit her lands, and when her father dies, she will inherit his. The highest level title will determine who gets the vassal.
In this case, you've stated that the mother has 2 duchies, while her spouse has a county. On death, you will keep the vassal, as county is lower than duchy. If titles are equal, the vassal goes to the liege who is first to die.
That's cool. Then I get the vassal. Thanks for the help!
 
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Not all mods break achievements. If they interfere with mechanics, events etc they do. Some graphics mods do not break A's. I would check what the modder has said.
I thought the same, but I read in the comments in one of the mods that all mods break achievements. Since I never installed mods in CKII before, I wasn't sure. Thanks a ton.