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Hi,

Are there any known problems with raiding? I've done it successfully several times but now it doesn't work and I don't understand why. I'm a norse pagan who's trying to raid a catholic german county. My levy were flagged as "raiders" before they got on the ferry. I've raided the very same county earlier in this game so I'm dumbfounded right now tbh.

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Hi,

Are there any known problems with raiding? I've done it successfully several times but now it doesn't work and I don't understand why. I'm a norse pagan who's trying to raid a catholic german county. My levy were flagged as "raiders" before they got on the ferry. I've raided the very same county earlier in this game so I'm dumbfounded right now tbh.

Cheers,

If you have been defeated in battle you are unable to raid that target for 5 years.

Unfortunately there is nothing that shows who and for how long you are unable to raid because of it.
 

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If you have been defeated in battle you are unable to raid that target for 5 years.

Unfortunately there is nothing that shows who and for how long you are unable to raid because of it.

And "that target", is that the entire kingdom? But anyway, that is probably the reason. Thanks!
 

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Okay, here's one for ya. Does changing capital county due to being elected king count as your one capital move per ruler?

I'm playing Slavic pagan right now, elective gavelkind with all that entails. My first King of Rus got sick and died at the age of 43, and his half-brother the Chief of Luki was elected because the heir I was grooming was about ten. The game auto-moved his capital from Luki to Novgorod, which is fine. But after conquering part of Estonia, I tried to move my capital to Narva to upgrade its shipbuilding, thinking I'd move back to Novgorod once I could construct the shipyard, and found to my annoyance that I couldn't do it.
 

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I feel like I should remember this, but here it goes:
When I decline repaying a favor, what the penalties are?
Is it a "tyrant" opinion penalty for the council members?

Well, I've accidentally hit "Decline", and the answer is the council is gonna be in discontent in 2 years, and you might get a -20 Tyrant penalty, I'm not sure if I had it for some other reason.
 

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Another question:

If a duke who already has a liege, inherits a duchy in another country, he will stay under his current liege, and bring the newly inherited duchy into the fold of his original kingdom, I know that.

BUT: what happens if said duke isn't actually the ruler of the duchy, just the husband of the duchess? It's clearly possible for a couple to have equal level titles in different kingdoms, so maybe the newly inherited duchy won't merge into the other kingdom.
The tooltip just says the usual "the title might leave your realm" stuff.
 
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what happens if said duke isn't actually the ruler of the duchy, just the husband of the duchess? It's clearly possible for a couple to have equal level titles in different kingdoms, so maybe the newly inherited duchy won't merge into the other kingdom.
The tooltip just says the usual "the title might leave your realm" stuff.
The husband will inherit the title under the realm the title is in prior to inheritance.
Importantly:
THE TITLE WILL LEAVE YOUR REALM if the heir to the title holds a title equal to or higher under annother realm.
In the case specified, If the duke dies and her son takes over before his wife dies, the duchesses duchy will be amalgamated into the Husband's lieges kingdom on her death. However if the Wife dies first the reverse will happen, assuming the Heir is the same for both titles.
The warning gives you time to plan.

Edited to correct and for clarity.
Any idea when auto Call to Arms and unbreakable Defensive Pacts will be fixed? I just can't play the game without the option to backstab and break treaties.
Next patch if ever. They are planning to introduce a feature that allows the removal of coalitions/Defensive Pacts, and they've already agreed that auto CtA's were a mistake.
I think...
 
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Another question:

If a duke who already has a liege, inherits a duchy in another country, he will stay under his current liege, and bring the newly inherited duchy into the fold of his original kingdom, I know that.

BUT: what happens if said duke isn't actually the ruler of the duchy, just the husband of the duchess? It's clearly possible for a couple to have equal level titles in different kingdoms, so maybe the newly inherited duchy won't merge into the other kingdom.
The tooltip just says the usual "the title might leave your realm" stuff.

If the husband of a duchess in kingdom A inherits a duchy in kingdom B, he will become a duke in kingdom B. If he has any lower titles (counties, baronies) those titles will go to kingdom B with him. But if he doesn't have any lower titles, then kingdom A doesn't lose anything.

Where it gets intersting though is in the next generation. The duke and duchess might have the same heir (for example if they have only 1 son or if they both have primogeniture). If that is the case then what happens depends on which duchy the heir inherits first. If the duchess dies first the heir becomes a duke in kingdom A and when he inherits the duke's duchy, that duchy will pass from kingdom B to kingdom A. But if the duke dies first the son will become a duke in kingdom B and when his mother dies as well her duchy will move from kingdom A to kingdom B. And if they have multiple sons and Gavelkind then the eldest will inherit from the first parent to die and the younger one will inherit from the second parent to die.

tl;dr: If you're kingdom A, it's fine. Just make sure that the duchess dies before the duke.

The husband will inherit the title under the realm the title is in prior to inheritance.
Importantly:
THE TITLE WILL LEAVE YOUR REALM if the heir to the title holds a title equal to or higher under annother realm.

This is correct.

In the case specified, If the duchess dies and her son takes over before her husband dies, the duchesses duchy will be amalgamated into the Husband's lieges kingdom. However if the Husband dies first the reverse will happen, assuming the Heir is the same for both titles.
The warning gives you time to plan.

But this is incorrect.

If the duchess dies first, her son simply inherits her duchy as normal. Then when the father dies he also gets his duchy (unless it's Gavelkind and there are more sons) and because both titles are equal the son doesn't leave his liege and both duchies end up as part of the mother's kingdom.
 
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If the duchess dies first, her son simply inherits her duchy as normal. Then when the father dies he also gets his duchy (unless it's Gavelkind and there are more sons) and because both titles are equal the son doesn't leave his liege and both duchies end up as part of the mother's kingdom.
:oops:
I'll edit that.
My mistake. I meant the other way round...
 

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Okay, here's one for ya. Does changing capital county due to being elected king count as your one capital move per ruler?

I'm playing Slavic pagan right now, elective gavelkind with all that entails. My first King of Rus got sick and died at the age of 43, and his half-brother the Chief of Luki was elected because the heir I was grooming was about ten. The game auto-moved his capital from Luki to Novgorod, which is fine. But after conquering part of Estonia, I tried to move my capital to Narva to upgrade its shipbuilding, thinking I'd move back to Novgorod once I could construct the shipyard, and found to my annoyance that I couldn't do it.
Well, the problem solved itself (a different county in the same duchy developed shipbuilding without me having to move there), but I'd still like to know.
 

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I just legitimized as bastard son because he is way better then my 'real' first born. This legitimized son had a son of it's own before i legitimized him but he is still not of my dynasty after the legitimization. He is a regular son of his marriage. Is this WAD because I don't think so.
PS: His second son, born after the legitimization, is from my dynasty.

EDIT: I now have a serious succession problem because my first son in not of my dynasty

EDIT2:Forget about it. I, the bastard son, took a hit on the head and became incapable. No I have a regency, a rebellion, got overthrown by another faction and GAME OVER is inevitable because of my legitimate son of differed dynasty.
 
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I just legitimized as bastard son because he is way better then my 'real' first born. This legitimized son had a son of it's own before i legitimized him but he is still not of my dynasty after the legitimization. He is a regular son of his marriage. Is this WAD because I don't think so.
PS: His second son, born after the legitimization, is from my dynasty.

EDIT: I now have a serious succession problem because my first son in not of my dynasty

EDIT2:Forget about it. I, the bastard son, took a hit on the head and became incapable. No I have a regency, a rebellion, got overthrown by another faction and GAME OVER is inevitable because of my legitimate son of differed dynasty.
Semi-WAD. Bastards that sire children become a new dynasty, probably to de-legitimize any children they have within wedlock. But I think you broke this by legitimizing him after he'd had kids of his own, which caused later children to revert to your dynasty.

The lesson here is, if you want to legitimize a bastard, make sure you do it BEFORE he has kids.
 

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Semi-WAD. Bastards that sire children become a new dynasty, probably to de-legitimize any children they have within wedlock. But I think you broke this by legitimizing him after he'd had kids of his own, which caused later children to revert to your dynasty.

The lesson here is, if you want to legitimize a bastard, make sure you do it BEFORE he has kids.
I legitimize so rarely, and when I do I make it wrong. :(
Lesson learned!
 

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What happens when I give a vassal one Vice-Kingdom and three Vice-Duchies? Can this vassal give one of the Duchies away? When Yes what will happen with this Duchy title. Will it stay a Vice-Duchy or does it become inheritable and what laws will it get?
 

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What happens when I give a vassal one Vice-Kingdom and three Vice-Duchies? Can this vassal give one of the Duchies away? When Yes what will happen with this Duchy title. Will it stay a Vice-Duchy or does it become inheritable and what laws will it get?
He can give away the vice-Royalty duchies. As far as I know, It will be a vice royalty until the receiver dies, and then it will become a duchy.
 

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Does Iconoclasm have appreciably less flavor than Orthodoxy? As in having noticeably fewer events or decisions, less characterization from any popup text, and/or presentation that feels relatively nondescript/placeholder somehow?

I'm contemplating an Iconoclast run, maybe trying to mend the schism, but recently read somewhere that Orthodox can do at least one thing Iconoclast can't (I think the example cited was settling the Varangian Guard?). Just wondering if the sum of any differences would add up to it feeling significantly more bare-bones than an Orthodox run would.
 
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