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Trying to understand the English melting pot event. In the past it was only possible with norman culture. Is that still true? I am Anglo Saxon and don't want to waste money on culture specific buidings and retinue if my culture will flip. I think I posted the relevant code for anyone who can understand it quickly. Thanks for the time.

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# The English Melting Pot
character_event = {
    id = 55002
    desc = "EVTDESC55002"
    picture = GFX_evt_stone_church
 
    only_playable = yes
 
    trigger = {
        year = 1100
        culture = norman
        any_demesne_province = {
            region = custom_england
            culture = saxon
            any_province_holding = {
                NOT = { holding_type = nomad }
            }
        }
    }
 
    mean_time_to_happen = {
        months = 1200
        modifier = {
            factor = 0.75
            learning = 7
        }
        modifier = {
            factor = 0.75
            learning = 9
        }
        modifier = {
            factor = 0.75
            learning = 11
        }
        modifier = {
            factor = 0.75
            learning = 13
        }
        modifier = {
            factor = 1.5
            NOT = { learning = 5 }
        }
        modifier = {
            factor = 1.5
            NOT = { learning = 3 }
        }
        modifier = {
            factor = 2.0
            NOT = { learning = 1 }
        }
    }

    option = {
        name = "EVTOPTA55002"
        culture = english
        random_demesne_province = {
            limit = {
                region = custom_england
                culture = saxon
                any_province_holding = {
                    NOT = { holding_type = nomad }
                }
            }
            culture = english
        }
    }
}

For the event to trigger you need a Norman character owning a Saxon province in England after 1100. And the event will change both the character's and the province's culture to English. Oh, and doesn't trigger for nomads.

Right. That's how I thought it worked, but pretty sure I was the king of Ireland and pressed a claim for a vassal of mine on one the duchies within Scotland and when he got it he left.
Almost certainly operator error on my part though! Will try again. Cheers

It must be, because it's always worked exactly as described for me. Though I have on occasion pressed a wrong person's claim. That always makes me feel like an idiot.
 
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Do I get supplies for my armies from liege lands if the liege is NOT an ally nor opponent in a certain war ?

I'm just in the middle of a big empire, so it's kinda important to know.
 

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Do I get supplies for my armies from liege lands if the liege is NOT an ally nor opponent in a certain war ?

I'm just in the middle of a big empire, so it's kinda important to know.
As a strategos, I've not had any problems marching across the empire, so yes.
 

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As the Roman Empire I have roughly 120k troops I can field, but also coalitions from everyone outside the Aztecs. Yes that means the Mongols.

The game is Ironman and in the late 1370s, so I have a short while before the game ends. Makes me desperate to complete the Imperial Reconquest and a possible chance at SPQR. So, is it possible to blitz down an entire duchy with those 120k troops and win the war before the enemy can gather up?

If I can't win the war by then, will their inevitable siege of all my border provinces make me lose massive warscore or will this only apply to my desmense + contested duchy?
 
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Does anyone know if this character, Abdullah ibn Wahb al-Rasibi (fifth Ibadi Caliph), exist in the game? Thanks.
 

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Do I get supplies for my armies from liege lands if the liege is NOT an ally nor opponent in a certain war ?

I'm just in the middle of a big empire, so it's kinda important to know.

The realm of your top liege counts as friendly territory and you can supply your troops normally while you stay within it's borders.

As the Roman Empire I have roughly 120k troops I can field, but also coalitions from everyone outside the Aztecs. Yes that means the Mongols.

The game is Ironman and in the late 1370s, so I have a short while before the game ends. Makes me desperate to complete the Imperial Reconquest and a possible chance at SPQR. So, is it possible to blitz down an entire duchy with those 120k troops and win the war before the enemy can gather up?

If I can't win the war by then, will their inevitable siege of all my border provinces make me lose massive warscore or will this only apply to my desmense + contested duchy?

You will lose warscore from having your border provinces occupied. You might be able to blitz a duchy though if you can assault all the holdings before any sieges on your perifery are completed. Mercenaries work well for that because having them hired doesn't prevent you from declaring war and unlike retinues they won't cost a fortune to reinforce back to full strength.
 

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I’m playing as Leon (carrying on from Learning Scenario) and can’t keep my eldest daughter in my court for education. My second daughter was automatically in my court, so would be grateful for your thoughts on why there is a difference.

History is, I was playing as my mother when I married off my only son, Vela (now me), in a regular marriage to the Duchess of Spoleto. Vela resided in her court until his mother died and he inherited the realm. The first daughter was born in Spoleto, second daughter, I think, was once I had inherited Leon.

Now my older daughter, Constanza, is 10, and since she turned six I tried to educate her to prevent her becoming German (culture of my wife and most of her court). Problem is that as soon as I request to educate her and she arrives in my court, she’s taken away to be tutored by one of my wife’s court. The marriage is regular and she is of my dynasty so I had assumed the choice would be mine?

This hasn’t happened so far to my second daughter however; she’s just turned six but I was free to choose whoever I wanted for education and (touch wood) hasn’t been stolen by my wife.

So, why the difference? At present I can only assume that as Constanza was born in Spoleto, she resides in that court, even though she is of my dynasty? Either way I would be grateful if you could confirm or deny my assumption, and if there is anything I can do about it, short of imprisoning / assassinating her, I would be grateful for your thoughts :)
 

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So, why the difference? At present I can only assume that as Constanza was born in Spoleto, she resides in that court, even though she is of my dynasty? Either way I would be grateful if you could confirm or deny my assumption, and if there is anything I can do about it, short of imprisoning / assassinating her, I would be grateful for your thoughts :)
Because she was born in Spoleto. Your assumption is correct. Try educating Constanza by yourself if you haven't already. That should make your wife more content with the contract.

Edit: as in, Your character personally.
 

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The realm of your top liege counts as friendly territory and you can supply your troops normally while you stay within it's borders.



You will lose warscore from having your border provinces occupied. You might be able to blitz a duchy though if you can assault all the holdings before any sieges on your perifery are completed. Mercenaries work well for that because having them hired doesn't prevent you from declaring war and unlike retinues they won't cost a fortune to reinforce back to full strength.

Okay follow up question. Will they siege the closest provinces or will they try to send troops to the contested provinces?

Asking primarily because the planned reconquest will happen in Spain and the closest big power is all the way in Germany.
 

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Because she was born in Spoleto. Your assumption is correct. Try educating Constanza by yourself if you haven't already. That should make your wife more content with the contract.

Edit: as in, Your character personally.

Thank you but every time I (my character) have been the educator, my wife won't allow me to select anyone else, and she still heads back to her court. I just ran it again, became my daughter's educator but within one month she was back in Spoleto being tutored by the same German.
 

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I’m playing as Leon (carrying on from Learning Scenario) and can’t keep my eldest daughter in my court for education. My second daughter was automatically in my court, so would be grateful for your thoughts on why there is a difference.

History is, I was playing as my mother when I married off my only son, Vela (now me), in a regular marriage to the Duchess of Spoleto. Vela resided in her court until his mother died and he inherited the realm. The first daughter was born in Spoleto, second daughter, I think, was once I had inherited Leon.

Now my older daughter, Constanza, is 10, and since she turned six I tried to educate her to prevent her becoming German (culture of my wife and most of her court). Problem is that as soon as I request to educate her and she arrives in my court, she’s taken away to be tutored by one of my wife’s court. The marriage is regular and she is of my dynasty so I had assumed the choice would be mine?

This hasn’t happened so far to my second daughter however; she’s just turned six but I was free to choose whoever I wanted for education and (touch wood) hasn’t been stolen by my wife.

So, why the difference? At present I can only assume that as Constanza was born in Spoleto, she resides in that court, even though she is of my dynasty? Either way I would be grateful if you could confirm or deny my assumption, and if there is anything I can do about it, short of imprisoning / assassinating her, I would be grateful for your thoughts :)

When the daughter was born her mother was a landed noble, while her father was not. Because of that she became a courtier at her mother's court. And she will remain a courtier at her mother's court until one of the following happens:
- she marries a landed noble
- she gains a title of her own
- her mother loses all her landed titles
- she accepts an invitation to join another court (must be adult)

While she is assigned to her mother's court she is subjected to her mother's decisions in regard to education. And her mother is probably being pestered by her own liege to have a German educate her. That's why you're lsoing guardianship. It's all the Kaiser's fault.
 

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Okay follow up question. Will they siege the closest provinces or will they try to send troops to the contested provinces?

Asking primarily because the planned reconquest will happen in Spain and the closest big power is all the way in Germany.

I haven't done any real blobbing yet in 2.5 so I'm not sure. I do imagine they'll lay siege to the enarest available provinces though.
 

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No, the tooltip says that the if the claimant is of the same dynasty or if you are the de jure liege of the title you're claiming, they will become your vassal. It doesn't mention the special case where they already hold a title in your realm.

If they do hold a title in your realm, the effect depend son the rank of the title you just claimed. If the title is of equal or greater rank (for example a king pressing a vassal's claim to another kingdom or even an empire) the claimant becomes independent. But if the rank of the title is lower than your rank (for example a king pressing a vassal's claim to a duchy) then they should become your vassal.

Yes, you're quite right (of course), that first sentence is what it says.
Maybe it's too much to fit into a tooltip, but that second paragraph isn't clear in the game.
If I invite someone to court who has a claim and give them a barony then they're not of my dynasty and I'm not the de jure liege of whatever claim I'm pressing.

I think you're right about what I did - when I want to declare war these days there are so many CBs I must have selected an unlanded non-dynasty one. Doh!

Should I only be inviting people with strong claims?
 

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My RL brother, playing as the King of Eire, put his wife on the throne of Cornwall, and arranged an alliance. A year or so later, he got what appeared to be a random event, with her asking whether he was responsible for marauding pirates along her coast.

He responded politely; she accused him of lying, and she broke both their alliance and their non-aggression pact. Now he can't find a way to re-establish the NAP, even though they're still married, and her opinion of him remains over +100.

Working as intended? Correction available?
 

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Ah, yes.
I'd forgotten that.
Dragatus is right, it's the Kaiser's fault.
Keep persevering.

When in doubt, blame the Kaiser. :D

Yes, you're quite right (of course), that first sentence is what it says.
Maybe it's too much to fit into a tooltip, but that second paragraph isn't clear in the game.
If I invite someone to court who has a claim and give them a barony then they're not of my dynasty and I'm not the de jure liege of whatever claim I'm pressing.

I think you're right about what I did - when I want to declare war these days there are so many CBs I must have selected an unlanded non-dynasty one. Doh!

Should I only be inviting people with strong claims?

People with strong claims are preferable, because you can press the claim any time you want. But there is nothing wrong with inviting people who only have weak claims. Sooner or later there is going to be an opportunity to press weak claims and if you have such a person in your court the notification will appear.

What you should try to do though is invite people with claims that can be inherited, preferably men. If you have a spare dynasty member and the character isn't married (or is no longer married because their spouse suffered a tragic accident) you can arrange the marriage of the proper type and create some children of your own dynasty that have a claim to the title.

But not only that, the longer you have someone with a claim to a title in your court, the better the chances that you'll be able to press it. If you invite a amn to your court and he dies in 10 years, you have a 10 year window to press the claim. If you invite a man, marry him to someone and he has children you can still press the children's claim after he dies, so the window of opportunity to rpess the claim is extended.

My RL brother, playing as the King of Eire, put his wife on the throne of Cornwall, and arranged an alliance. A year or so later, he got what appeared to be a random event, with her asking whether he was responsible for marauding pirates along her coast.

He responded politely; she accused him of lying, and she broke both their alliance and their non-aggression pact. Now he can't find a way to re-establish the NAP, even though they're still married, and her opinion of him remains over +100.

Working as intended? Correction available?

This is the first time I hear of that event. I don't know if it's working as intended, but what your brother could do is try to marry a close relative of his to a close relative of hers. That should give him ground to form a new NAP.
 

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Had an imprisonment war versus a queen in my empire. One of the last non viceroyalties, basically.

The revolt abruptly ended when she died and a new heir took over through elective monarchy. To try and revoke again, I spied on that guy. Success.

I have reason now to (probably fail) imprisoning him, which will re-ignite the revolt. For some reason however I cannot imprison. I can't revoke either. It's as if he were a foreign king, even though it says he's still my vassal. What's going on?

Nevermind. Whatever it was it started working properly after I reset the game.
 
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When the daughter was born her mother was a landed noble, while her father was not. Because of that she became a courtier at her mother's court. And she will remain a courtier at her mother's court until one of the following happens:
- she marries a landed noble
- she gains a title of her own
- her mother loses all her landed titles
- she accepts an invitation to join another court (must be adult)

While she is assigned to her mother's court she is subjected to her mother's decisions in regard to education. And her mother is probably being pestered by her own liege to have a German educate her. That's why you're lsoing guardianship. It's all the Kaiser's fault.

Mystery solved, thank you very much. I'm going to have to make an assessment of how likely she is to become German. Either way I think it's time to have a son and / or play the assassination game :)
 

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Okay follow up question. Will they siege the closest provinces or will they try to send troops to the contested provinces?

Asking primarily because the planned reconquest will happen in Spain and the closest big power is all the way in Germany.

I haven't done any real blobbing yet in 2.5 so I'm not sure. I do imagine they'll lay siege to the enarest available provinces though.
In my experience the AI will go for closest provinces first, but they'll return to retake occupied territory or hit your army if it's in theirs. Noticed something odd, though. If you have merchant republics with trade posts in enemy lands, the AI will target them preferentially. That's bought me all kinds of time in my campaigns to drive the Umayyads out as the Irish (screw history).
 

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Mystery solved, thank you very much. I'm going to have to make an assessment of how likely she is to become German. Either way I think it's time to have a son and / or play the assassination game :)

Cultural conversion of a ward is an event and every time you wrest guardianship away from the German educator it resets the timer. If you get your daughter to visit you a few times a year so that she remembers her true heritage that should be enough to prevent her from culture flipping. Even once a year would likely be enough, but better safe than sorry. Of course there is always a chance that she flips cultures anyway. But the more often you take control of the guardianship, the less likely it is to happen.