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Playing with Conclave for the first time - trying to institute Primo succession law. Tooltip says I need to have at least Medium Crown Authority. The Crown Authority laws seem to be gone (?) and replaced by Administration laws which I have set to Late. Tooltip on Primo still says I need Medium Crown Authority. Where has Crown Authority disappeared to and how do I change it under the Conclave DLC?
 

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Playing with Conclave for the first time - trying to institute Primo succession law. Tooltip says I need to have at least Medium Crown Authority. The Crown Authority laws seem to be gone (?) and replaced by Administration laws which I have set to Late. Tooltip on Primo still says I need Medium Crown Authority. Where has Crown Authority disappeared to and how do I change it under the Conclave DLC?

The tooltip is for people without conclave. You only need late fuedal,10 years and no vassals with a negative opinion.
 

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Playing with Conclave for the first time - trying to institute Primo succession law. Tooltip says I need to have at least Medium Crown Authority. The Crown Authority laws seem to be gone (?) and replaced by Administration laws which I have set to Late. Tooltip on Primo still says I need Medium Crown Authority. Where has Crown Authority disappeared to and how do I change it under the Conclave DLC?
The tooltip has been screwed up since Conclave dropped: folks with Conclave get the non-Conclave tooltip and vice versa.
 

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2 quick questions:

1: Where can I find this new fangled 'next music track' feature?

2: I can only afford to buy one of the following: WoL, HL, or Conclave - which would you suggest?

1. Lower right corner of the minimap. There's a button with two arrows on it.

2. If you only play ERE you'd miss out on the majority of HL content, so you wouldn't be getting your money's worth. WoL and Conclave though are a matter of personal taste.

I will say however that from what I've gathered Conclave is most fun if you're a vassal sitting on your liege's council because you now have some tools to influence the realm. But If you are the top liege of the realm the council is basically making you jump through extra hoops to get the same results as before.

And about WoL, people say it's for good for roleplaying, but I find that's only half the truth. WoL enhances roleplaying for people who care more about roleplaying than about gameplay and will pick their focus based on their characters traits. But most people tend to find one or two focuses that give the best benefits for their particular style of gameplay and stick with them for all their characters. And the really gamey people cycle through focuses to squeeze out maximum benefits (start with Scholarship and build observatory for tech, switch to Hunting to get dog, then switch to Rulership to get Just and Diligent traits, finally settle for Family focus to live longer and make a couple extra kids).

1- Should I bother with centralization higher than medium? I'm not quite sure how high my number of direct vassals may rise and that makes the vassal limit penalties sound quite scary.
2- How bad is it to be over demesne limit? I'm currently sitting on 12/6 titles and I'd really want to keep them until there are enough men of my dynasty to receive them.
3- Does opinion have any bearing on pregnancy chance? My new character is a damn cheater and his genius wife is not happy about it.
4- Regardless of the above, is there any way to get rid of the malus from adulterer/suspected adulterer or are they forever?

1. Yes, feel free to increase centralization as much as possible in the beginning. It's a normal law so you can change it several steps within a single ruler's lifetime. If you later find yourself going over your vassal limit, you can always drop it again.

2. Really bad. You get a 20% penalty for each holding above your limit, up to a maximum of -90% income and levies at 5 holdings over your limit. You can generally afford to hold on to 1 or maybe 2 extra titles, but 3 are already prohibitive. You're better of handing out the excess titles and revoking them later.

There is a workaround though if you have a either a lowborn eunuch or a noble eunuch with no living relatives in your court. You can grant him the excess titles and since he has no relatives and can't produce any children, you'll be his heir and will get the titles back when he dies.

3. Hate sex will produce babies just as well as making sweet love would. With other words, opinion does not have any direct effect on pregnancy chance. However, the Lover modifier makes babies more likely and if your spouse hates you they might be more willing to get a lover.

4. The modifiers lasts for 10 years for the public version and 5 years for the suspected version. If a wife cheats on her husband and it becomes public knowledge it's also a valid reason for imprisonment, title revocation, execution and divorce.

Playing with Conclave for the first time - trying to institute Primo succession law. Tooltip says I need to have at least Medium Crown Authority. The Crown Authority laws seem to be gone (?) and replaced by Administration laws which I have set to Late. Tooltip on Primo still says I need Medium Crown Authority. Where has Crown Authority disappeared to and how do I change it under the Conclave DLC?

The tooltip is for people without conclave. You only need late fuedal,10 years and no vassals with a negative opinion.

The tooltip has been screwed up since Conclave dropped: folks with Conclave get the non-Conclave tooltip and vice versa.

Actually the tooltip is automatically generated from the law conditions in the game files and applies to both people who do and people who don't have Conclave.

It says you need either Medium/High Crown Authority (only possible if you don't have Conlcave) or Late/Imperial Administration (only possible if you do have Conclave). You don't need to fulfill both conditions, only one.
 
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Actually the tooltip is automatically generated from the law conditions in the game files and applies to both people who do and people who don't have Conclave.

It says you need either Medium/High Crown Authority (only possible if you don't have Conlcave) or Late/Imperial Administration (only possible if you do have Conclave). You don't need to fulfill both conditions, only one.

The way the tooltip is generated makes sense, but I do have Conclave activated and I am getting the Medium/High Crown authority tooltip which shouldn't happen. Even with Late Administration active, the tooltip still shows red for the Crown authority conditions. I haven't yet managed to get every single vassal to like me, so cant test if I can force the law change even with the tooltip being incorrect.
 

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I'm pretty sure everybody gets the same tooltip, whether they have Conclave or not. And the tooltip is working as intended. Yes, it mentions Crown Authority even if you have Conclave. And likewise it mentions Late Feudal Adminsitration even if you don't have the DLC. But that's because you only need to fulfill one of the three sets of conditions.

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Here's what the tooltip looks without Conclave. I bet it looks exactly the same for you. It's telling us that if we want to adopt Primogeniture the conditions in one of the three blocks must be fulfilled. If we meet the requirements from one of them that is enough to enable the law and the other blocks is irrelevant. So we need to do one of three things:

1) If we have been given a viceroyalty, we can adopt Primogeniture for your non-viceroyal titles. So a viceroyal king can adopt primogeniture for his duchies and a viceroyal duke could enable it for his counties.

2) Alternatively, we can adopt Primogeniture if we have either Late Feudal Administration or Imperial Administration enabled for our primary title. Since Late Feudal Administration is only available with Conclave, this condition is designed for people who have the DLC.

3) A third option is to have high or Absolute Crown Authority. Since Conclave disables Crown Authority this condition can only be fulfilled by people who don't have the DLC.

To reiterate, you only need to fulfill one of the three sets of conditions. That's why the tooltip (which is the same for both people who do and people who don't have Conclave) can contain both conditions that require the DLC and conditions that require you to not have the DLC.

The only part of the tooltip that's actually wrong is the logical block at the bottom. The condition there is a NAND so it should actually read "NOT all of the following must be true." or "At least one of the following must NOT be true."
 
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I'm pretty sure everybody gets the same tooltip, whether they have Conclave or not. And the tooltip is working as intended. Yes, it mentions Crown Authority even if you have Conclave. And likewise it mentions Late Feudal Adminsitration even if you don't have the DLC. But that's because you only need to fulfill one of the three sets of conditions.

Ii5xTuq.png


Here's what the tooltip looks without Conclave. I bet it looks exactly the same for you. It's telling us that if we want to adopt Primogeniture the conditions in one of the three blocks must be fulfilled. If we meet the requirements from one of them that is enough to enable the law and the other blocks is irrelevant. So we need to do one of three things:

1) If we have been given a viceroyalty, we can adopt Primogeniture for your non-viceroyal titles. So a viceroyal king can adopt primogeniture for his duchies and a viceroyal duke could enable it for his counties.

2) Alternatively, we can adopt Primogeniture if we have either Late Feudal Administration or Imperial Administration enabled for our primary title. Since Late Feudal Administration is only available with Conclave, this condition is designed for people who have the DLC.

3) A third option is to have high or Absolute Crown Authority. Since Conclave disables Crown Authority this condition can only be fulfilled by people who don't have the DLC.

The only part of the tooltip that's actually wrong is the logical block at the bottom. The condition there is a NAND so it should actually read "NOT all of the following must be true." or "At least one of the following must NOT be true."

I see #1 and #3 with Conclave. I do not see #2 on the tootip. I also do not see the last block which is not numbered. (2.5.2. YZAZ)
 

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In that case I apologize for my smugness and arrogance.

Looks like StarSword was right after all and the tooltip is messed up. I just assumed that if the tooltip was all-inclusive for people without the DLC it would be logical for it to be all-inclusive for everyone.
 

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In that case I apologize for my smugness and arrogance.

Looks like StarSword was right after all and the tooltip is messed up. I just assumed that if the tooltip was all-inclusive for people without the DLC it would be logical for it to be all-inclusive for everyone.

No worries, I didn't read it that way. The screenshot was helpful to define exactly what was and was not being displayed. If it is a tooltip bug, hopefully PI will patch it out.
 

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Sorry guys but I cant see any double arrow button anywhere near the minimap :-/

You're actually missing the button. Is your game up to date? The next song button was only implemented in the 2.5.2 patch.
 

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I'm actually finding myself with a question on de jure drift.
The entire Persian Empire has drifted into my settled Nomad empire. Can I create the (now titular) Persian Empire and still have other kingdoms I control drift into the Nomad empire or will creating a second empire stop drift altogether?
 

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I'm actually finding myself with a question on de jure drift.
The entire Persian Empire has drifted into my settled Nomad empire. Can I create the (now titular) Persian Empire and still have other kingdoms I control drift into the Nomad empire or will creating a second empire stop drift altogether?

I don't really understand the other kingdoms part, but what will surely happen is that all the kingdoms that are not part of your primary title (or any other title of equal level you own), will drift towards your primary title.

Any king title that de jure falls under the Persian empire title, will stop drifting (you will have the persian empire title), but the other king titles will continue drifting towards your primary title.


EDIT. Apparently I stand corrected for the drift of the titles under the Persian Empire as the person below says. I wasn't too sure about this anyway.
 
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I'm actually finding myself with a question on de jure drift.
The entire Persian Empire has drifted into my settled Nomad empire. Can I create the (now titular) Persian Empire and still have other kingdoms I control drift into the Nomad empire or will creating a second empire stop drift altogether?

Shouldn't stop or affect drift whatsoever. As a second title it will remain a titular title.
 

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Thanks Mithrandtir and Aardvark Bellay.

I wasn't sure if drift would occur when you have two titles of equal rank (empires in this case). Guess I'll create the Persian empire now for the extra prestige. (Not that I need it...)
 

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I grabbed Horse Lords and the Horse Lords Content Pack on Steam a day or two ago. When I play Paradox Interactive games, I like to be up-to-date on the DLC in order to get the full experience and a chance at those juicy achievements. However, I live in a foreign country and almost always get paid it cash, making depositing money into my American bank account a real bitch sometimes. This makes me a bit cautious when purchasing games that aren't on sale unless I know it'll be really worth the price. So here's my question: Conclave, is it worth dropping the $20 on it right now or should I wait for a sale? I'm going to get it eventually, but I just want to get a feel for the general impression of that DLC before I grab it sooner than later.

By the way, if this is the wrong area to post this question then I apologize in advance.
 
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how do i get kids in barons/city mayors courts to get an education? dumb heirs because lack of focus ruined my game
If they're your vassals, can't you just select them or their parents and choose the "Educate Child" option when the child is of age? I do that all the time to groom wives for my inheritors.
 
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If they're your vassals, can't you just select them or their parents and choose the "Educate Child" option when the child is of age? I do that all the time to groom wives for my inheritors.



it just happens me with barony-level vassals in conclave, patrician families do as you describe..I was waiting for the AI to choose a focus for them, but the education "button" is absent from barony-level vassals kids..they almost always end with a random level 1 education, even if they're genius..it only happens to me? :(