Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon Announced

[Timjames]

Will there be an ability to send Missionaries to China?

There's a historical basis for it - Nestorian Missionaries arrived in China during the 8th century, Muslim Missionaries managed to convert a large amount of western china, and Catholic Missionaries arrived in China in the 1200s - and being able to act on China instead of just reacting to them would be good. It could be that if you are sending Missionaries AND have a good relationship with the Emperor then you have a chance of converting him to your faith.

 

[The_Meme_Man]

Will there be an ability to send Missionaries to China?

There's a historical basis for it - Nestorian Missionaries arrived in China during the 8th century, Muslim Missionaries managed to convert a large amount of western china, and Catholic Missionaries arrived in China in the 1200s - and being able to act on China instead of just reacting to them would be good. It could be that if you are sending Missionaries AND have a good relationship with the Emperor then you have a chance of converting him to your faith.

And this is ignoring all the Buddhist and Indian influence in India.

 

[Thrake]

Got to disagree, limiting CB availability actually improved the game vastly for me.

More CB is good IMO, but I certainly wish they were harder to get (or that you had to work to get them) insteading of adding automatic CB like the duchy de jure one.

 

[Timjames]

And this is ignoring all the Buddhist and Indian influence in India.

That's right: Buddhism all but died off in India but it became great in China and East Asia.

 

[The_Meme_Man]

That's right: Buddhism all but died off in India but it became great in China and East Asia.

Not in my CKII Games.

Make Buddhism great again. End the Hindu tyranny of the Brahman bourgeoisie.

 

[Naughtius Maximus]

Conclave enchanted many things, yet their work towards the council was rather misguided. It isn't that the councils made the game harder, but that how councils work currently make less sense than before the Conclave.

Think about, councillors are appointed by ruler, they are employees and draw their power from favours. Each individual councilman has the potential play the monarch and become defacto ruler. Why would power of the monarch be given to his council? Who would want that? When council has ruler's power its mere pentarchy, in which concentration of power is difficult and could easily lead to a power struggle.

The council isn't there supervise usage of power, but to exercise it. That being said many council mechanics would fit well with parliament.

Not at all. Even today charges of Nepotism or Favoritism are occassionally dropped on modern day councillors. Trump being the most recent example with family members being in.....??? roles in the White House.

They are not employees. They are positions of influence and represent close proximity to the ruler. Of course powerful people would be angry if some nobody was closer to the liege (and hence closer to influence) than they are.

You also seem to forget that feudalism was the very definition of decentralization. That's the entire reason why feudal lords existed, there was no bureaucracy for lieges to manage everything alone. Of course concentration of power would be difficult.

 

[Wixelt]

Not in my CKII Games.

Make Buddhism great again. End the Hindu tyranny of the Brahman bourgeoisie.

Interestingly they stated the Dharmic HOs were getting nerfed, so the Islamic conquest of Buddhist parts of India is much more likely to happen in the expansion.

 

[daniloy]

any other facepacks?

 

[TheDungen]

More CB is good IMO, but I certainly wish they were harder to get (or that you had to work to get them) instead of adding automatic CB like the duchy de jure one.

My limitation for that one is that
1 you have to be the dejure liege of the title holder
2 the defender in the war has to be the same tier or higher than the attacker.

Interestingly they stated the Dharmic HOs were getting nerfed, so the Islamic conquest of Buddhist parts of India is much more likely to happen in the expansion.

Yeah those holy orders were an almost insurmountable obstacle before.

 

[frolix42]

Cant we fix all the issues with the West & completely flesh it out before going farther east?

I'm all for improving existing features, but... All the issues? Completely flesh it out? If they did this, they would never add new content.

 

[Foreign Alien]

Achievement:

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE WEST - Defeat the Western Protectorate and expel it from the map as a ruler with European culture.

 

[TheDungen]

Achievement:

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE WEST - Defeat the Western Protectorate and expel it from the map as a ruler with European culture.

Bah.
Much better as an aztec ruler.

 

[Tufto]

As someone who mostly plays in Iran and Central Asia, this pleases me greatly it'll be great to have China's vast omnipresence looming over my back, and it's always good to see more love given to the Eastern end of the map.

 

[Kuro1211]

Achievement:

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE WEST - Defeat the Western Protectorate and expel it from the map as a ruler with European culture.

The Purple Dragon - starting as ERE, restore Roman Empire, than convert to a Han culture and Confucian religion.

 

[TheDungen]

As someone who mostly plays in Iran and Central Asia, this pleases me greatly it'll be great to have China's vast omnipresence looming over my back, and it's always good to see more love given to the Eastern end of the map.

Really? I play there a lot and to me this just seems annoying, especially if there's no way to conclusively beat the chinese emperor.

The Purple Dragon - starting as ERE, restore Roman Empire, than convert to a Han culture and Confucian religion.

The other way, as a Confucian han character restore the roman empire

 

[Ksiendzu]

Why duchies in Khotan are brown and not blue?! NO MORE BROWN COUNTRIES!
You've already changed colours of Brittany, Armenia, Finland, Abyssinia and Lithuania to brown Please, enough

 

[Caspian Mortis]

any other facepacks?

Yeah, I'm still waiting for French, Arabic and Western Slavic facepacks. Mights throw in some updated Celtic and East Slavic facepacks too.

 

[Dagda]

Best trailer for CK2 still is the one for Horse Lords.

Nah, this is still the best CK2 trailer or any Paradox game for that matter:

 

[Sofyan Rghiwi]

• Rally Points: Instruct your levies to automatically gather up exactly where you want them.

• Dictionary of Chinese Characters: New Chinese and Tibetan portraits and Chinese units bring the empire to life

You know this DLC is going to be really underwhelming when "Rally Points" and "Dictionary of Chinese Characters" are considered as major new features of the expansion.

 

[LeSingeAffame]

• Rally Points: Instruct your levies to automatically gather up exactly where you want them.

It was a bit implied that it would be a free feature, especially since you guys said it would be added in the 2.8 patch, and not in the next expansion

In 2.8, we’re finally rectifying this by adding the ability to define rally points, both for land units and ships.

So will it be locked behind the DLC or be part of the free patch ?