Crusader Kings 3 Dev Diary #39 - Achievements Showcase

Crusader Kings 3 Dev Diary #39 - Achievements Showcase

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I much prefer this version of the Norman Yoke achievement. How much better the world would have been if the Normans anglicised
My english lessons as a french student would have been 100X more difficult :p.Thank you Guillaume !
 
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Really like the icons' art.
How the Roman Empire restoration will work?
 
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"Álmost there" as a hungarian never heard this one before, so you can get my hungarian approval. At least not another Hung(a)ry joke.
 
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A Perfect Circle: have only two distinct parents, grandparents, and great grandparents, counting absent ancestors as individual characters.
Judging by all the reaction, am I the only one who didn't quite understand what this means?
 
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I'm a little concerned there are no achievements mentioned related to Crusades or taking Jerusalem/founding the kingdom thereof. Are there achievements that weren't mentioned to keep us further in suspense?
Ah, ye've missed "For the Faith", my friend. It's just not Jerusalem-specific, though Catholicism will usually go for Jerusalem over most other targets. Otherwise, this is the full list.

I am also very disappointed there's no achievement to form England as Alfred or one of his descendants. That's a serious missed opportunity. :(

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Honestly, I spend far too much time talking up Alfred at every available opportunity as-is. :p Rest assured, whilst he may not have a related achievement, he's well looked after.

Waaay too many easy achievements.

I understand that there need to be some easy achievements, but where once that was 5-10 maybe 15, it seems to be the bulk of them are easy.

Common occurences such as getting married or having a stress break have no value as achievements.

How many cool challenges were sacrificed so that we could give new players this many easy achievements?
Hmm, I'd estimate maybe... about 1? :) It's a valid concern ye've got, and it's certainly something we were aware of when picking which achievement ideas to go with. The simple achievements here are really rather easy to set up, usually being a very flat check, and anything more complex takes a little more time to hook in elegantly and test. The easy achievements we have were decided to be a good amount of beginner achievements without sacrificing anything more interesting to do. Apart from Death Do Us Part, which is just a setup for Death Did Us Part, which I, personally, find absolutely hilarious, but I'm rather a simple sort of guy.

Do hastein and others still start with event troops or is that scrapped as a game mechanic?
Hasteinn and a number of other rulers do indeed have event troops, or can spawn them via event/decision.
 
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with that, we come to the end of the showcase! Anything here that particularly caught your eye, or something you’d like to have seen? I’ll be hanging around in the comments for a couple of hours afterwards, per the usual, so feel free to tag me with any questions you may have.
I'd have liked to see a showcase of the different regions of the world, and how they differ from the standard European gameplay, but I guess that ship has sailed.
I suppose we'll see next week if PDX has truly stuck to their guns.
 
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Pretty sure it's also incest-related.
Yeah I also have this feeling, but no matter how hard I try, I just can't imagine a configuration of parents/grandparents/great grandparents of less than three individuals that can produce one single descendant.
 
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Because successful raids would eventually lead to conquest? As happened in Anatolia?
Sure, it could have, I'll admit raids were a way to now the terrain. But it didn't happen, so we will never know - and the Umayyads had other things to worry about anyway. But that's not what "avenging the battle of Tours" means. I won't debate that it helped establish Frank dominance over the region, but it's not a symbol at the time. There's nothing much to avenge, if a lost battle (of which we don't even truly know the configuration) among a whole bunch of lost battles (which didn't mean they abandonned the whole region). The major defeat, in their eyes, was the siege of Constantinople, in 718; and muslim sources regarding Tours are scarce.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm holding this way too close to heart, but in France this event has been mythified beyond reason and is still, to this day, instrumentalized by far right figures, who conflate it with a "civilization clash" - so it's a tad sensible a subject. I won't complain if "avenge the battle of Tours" is portrayed as "get the expansion going once again", but seeing how this event is constantly being portrayed, I'm not really hopeful.
 
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Yeah I also have this feeling, but no matter how hard I try, I just can't imagine a configuration of parents/grandparents/great grandparents of less than three individuals that can produce one single descendant.
Three generations of sibling parents

Which means that each married couple has the same parents for both, which is what I understood of it, though that would make more of a perfectly straight ladder than a circle
 
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Hasteinn and a number of other rulers do indeed have event troops, or can spawn them via event/decision.
So as retinues got swapped to men at arms, does this mean tribals are back to having decision making armies? Do Muslims get decisions to invite ghazi, or just regular raise raiding army interaction?
 

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Three generations of sibling parents

Which means that each married couple has the same parents for both, which is what I understood of it, though that would make more of a perfectly straight ladder than a circle
Aaaaah, thank you!

I thought that the two distinct characters in question would have to be your parents/grandparents/great grandparents at the same time.

I'm not sure if learning the truth made me feel more comfortable though...
 
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How realistic would it be to attempt to get all of these achievements before the release of the first flavour pack? ;)
 
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There are two, For the Faith and Frankokratia
Neither of which is directly related to the Crusades as the reconquering of the Holy Land or the foundation of the Kingdom of Jerusalem ... nominally the chief goal of Christendom during the whole of this period and the title of the game series.
 
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Ah, ye've missed "For the Faith", my friend. It's just not Jerusalem-specific, though Catholicism will usually go for Jerusalem over most other targets. Otherwise, this is the full list.
Forgive me if that makes me a bit uneasy about the importance of Crusades and the focus placed upon them in terms of game design. We'll know all soon enough, though! Thank you for the clarification.
 

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Hmm, I'd estimate maybe... about 1? :) It's a valid concern ye've got, and it's certainly something we were aware of when picking which achievement ideas to go with. The simple achievements here are really rather easy to set up, usually being a very flat check, and anything more complex takes a little more time to hook in elegantly and test. The easy achievements we have were decided to be a good amount of beginner achievements without sacrificing anything more interesting to do. Apart from Death Do Us Part, which is just a setup for Death Did Us Part, which I, personally, find absolutely hilarious, but I'm rather a simple sort of guy.
Not sure if it'd be elegant, but maybe you could have made some of the character-exclusive achievs be literally exclusive to them, aka my man Álmos - and not his descendants - has to form Hungary by himself.
 
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