Well I'm very excited about this DLC..I haven't bothered with most of them but will be buying this one.
Crusader Kings 2: The Old Gods DLC (Pagans)
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wait, is that new earliest start date 867 is only for pagans? or for christians and muslims as well?
What I would like to see is an event like the Mongols, were the Seljuk turks invade Persia.
Some of these changes sound suspiciously appropriate for a dark ages game (like the landless adventurer and declaration of invasion). I wonder if they're testing the mechanics for an unannounced dark ages game (droolz)
I was just wondering: with the Khazars having been alive and kicking at the new game start, does this not mean that Jews will logically have to be present in-game? I guess it would be hard to justify not having at least a non-playable version of Judaism in game with a significant chunk of the eastern part of the map under Jewish rulers?
You need to move that 's'.
And it's now jötunn to make a pun.
First of all I am extremely exited about this dlc. I can't wait to play old norse Characters along with other pagans. I maybe even more exited for the new start date, it sounds amazing. Now there is f.e. going to be an Anglosaxon England with many dynasties as opposed to the 2 major Anglo-Saxon dynasties in the early 1066 scenario.
I however have a question about the 867 scenario. How are you going to handle Iceland ? In the year 867 Iceland had only recently been discovered by the Norse and the Norse-Icelandic population was around 3 people (a man called Náttfari and a slave and a slave girl who came to Iceland and were (unintentionally?) left behind (Garðar Svafarson,Náttfari). At the time Irish monks (called papar) lived in Iceland, but that is pretty much it. Some have speculated that an Irish colony was in Iceland (and there has been a archaeological finding that may support it), but that is not confirmed.
The Norse colonization of Iceland is often said to have started in 874 when Ingólfur Arnarson (who is called the first "Landnámsmaður", even though Náttfari settled in Iceland before him) settles in what is now Reykjavík (he may settled in Reykjavík a little earlier, btw, Ingólfur and his step brother went on a exploration mission to Iceland in 867 according the Icelandic Wikipedia site about Ingólfur). By 930 the Norse colonization of Iceland was over.
Edit: I should have put this comment in the thread about the 867 start date. That thread seems to be a better place for this comment.
I however have a question about the 867 scenario. How are you going to handle Iceland ? In the year 867 Iceland had only recently been discovered by the Norse and the Norse-Icelandic population was around 3 people (a man called Náttfari and a slave and a slave girl who came to Iceland and were (unintentionally?) left behind (Garðar Svafarson,Náttfari). At the time Irish monks (called papar) lived in Iceland, but that is pretty much it. Some have speculated that an Irish colony was in Iceland (and there has been a archaeological finding that may support it), but that is not confirmed.
The Norse colonization of Iceland is often said to have started in 874 when Ingólfur Arnarson (who is called the first "Landnámsmaður", even though Náttfari settled in Iceland before him) settles in what is now Reykjavík (he may settled in Reykjavík a little earlier, btw, Ingólfur and his step brother went on a exploration mission to Iceland in 867 according the Icelandic Wikipedia site about Ingólfur). By 930 the Norse colonization of Iceland was over.
Edit: I should have put this comment in the thread about the 867 start date. That thread seems to be a better place for this comment.
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I was just about to ask the exact same thing.
How would Paradox handle a country of three people and several dubiously present monks?
How would Paradox handle a country of three people and several dubiously present monks?
This is the CKII DLC I'm really excited about. The other ones have been meh in my world but I've bought them all (except the Alien Invasion one). This one, though, has me drooling! Bring it on.
One thing I want to know, is if Greenland and possibly Vinland are going to be in this.
IE, it would be totally awesome if the map were slightly expanded westward, and if Norsemen will be able explore/settle these lands.
IE, it would be totally awesome if the map were slightly expanded westward, and if Norsemen will be able explore/settle these lands.
I'll wager they'll have some filler characters and be treated just like all the oddly overly developed parts of Eastern Europe and the like.
This is something I really hope they consider. Vinland may be stretching it a bit but there's no excuse for not including Greenland in CKII. They said they were focused on Vikings so perhaps there will be special events where an explorer finds land, and if you're willing to invest in attempting to settle it then the land would be opened up to the map. Once it is "discovered"(*cough* Native Americans) by someone the word would spread quickly, so it would be opened up to the rest of the map. The "discoverer" could get a special cb on the lands that could be used against other settlers due to the "right of discovery" as a bonus for being the first to find it and to make up for the large cost of funding early settlement. It could wear off after 50 years or so when the land is no longer seen as the property of the discoverers.
Yeah, that was one guess I had. However, could they cut the income of Iceland until it historicly had a considerable population and then raise it with an event which also explains that Iceland has been colonized or something like that ? Is it possible and feasable ?
If they have they same fedual system for Iceland in the new dlc I would not interduce a duke over Iceland until 930, when a Alþingi is formed.
The heretary duke system for Iceland is btw unaccuate, and Iceland being ruled by only 2 counts, but I suspect that Iceland not a popular country to play and I know they can't make everything perfect so I get why Iceland is not very well represented in this game.