Crusader Kings 2 or Victoria 2 ?
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Well in Victoria 2 you can guide the glorious Republic of Texas to world domination. In Crusader Kings II you can't. I think the choice is obvious. 
Do as I did and just buy both. I personally end up getting any Paradox grand strategy game I can get my hands on when I can afford to. They're a unique type of game, and the difference between these games are such that you can switch between them based on your current mood. There is a lot of variety.
Victoria 2.
Never been a fan of the Crusader Kings series, might be because I started off with EU1 back in 2000 and the time CK2 came around I was used to the eu, hoi and vic mechanics
Never been a fan of the Crusader Kings series, might be because I started off with EU1 back in 2000 and the time CK2 came around I was used to the eu, hoi and vic mechanics
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CK2 and Victoria 2 are completely different games. Victoria 2 is like a more complex Europa Universalis, but is set in the 19th and 20th centuries. The latter point was reason enough for me to buy it.
The choice depends on what you like in a strategy game. If you like the idea of playing as a country, colonizing large parts of the world, defeating your rivals in Great Wars and becoming the premier world power, then I'd go with Victoria 2.
CK2 is very fun in that you play as people in a dynasty instead of a country. It's fun and novel, but I still prefer to play as a country. So if you end up getting CK2, know that it will be a much different game.
I'd also like to point out that the complete list of DLC for CK2 raises the price tag pretty high. In the end, I suggest you buy both and decide which one you like better, then get the DLC. Victoria 2 is starting to look dated, but graphics shouldn't be a deal-breaker for you. If it was, you'd be better off playing something like Total War.
EDIT: I guess I should read the whole thread. It's good that you decided to get both.
The choice depends on what you like in a strategy game. If you like the idea of playing as a country, colonizing large parts of the world, defeating your rivals in Great Wars and becoming the premier world power, then I'd go with Victoria 2.
CK2 is very fun in that you play as people in a dynasty instead of a country. It's fun and novel, but I still prefer to play as a country. So if you end up getting CK2, know that it will be a much different game.
I'd also like to point out that the complete list of DLC for CK2 raises the price tag pretty high. In the end, I suggest you buy both and decide which one you like better, then get the DLC. Victoria 2 is starting to look dated, but graphics shouldn't be a deal-breaker for you. If it was, you'd be better off playing something like Total War.
EDIT: I guess I should read the whole thread. It's good that you decided to get both.
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ck2 personally. The converter has been updated in the beta patch not sure if it is 100% yet.
I probably should have mentioned this earlier. It's an important distinction:
CK2 is fully patched, up-to-date, and with all major features whether you buy all DLC or none. DLC adds a lot and unlocks a number of things, but it doesn't change much in the way of fundamentals. With CK2 you can safely buy JUST the core game.
V2 doesn't benefit from the new Paradox model. Without ALL Expansions, you do not get the patches. In addition to some lingering bugs, the result is that V2 without expansions simply feels incomplete. The first expansion (A House Divided) made it a lot better but the last (Heart of Darkness) made it feel RIGHT. Don't bother playing V2 without at least A House Divided. It's just not the game it should be.
Victoria 2 is dead, CK2 are alive. Feel the difference.
Personnaly, I don't like Victoria 2, because I don't like to play as GPs (ones available from the start). All (well, many) the other countries are very difficult to play and succeed as. In Victoria, you either big or in smbds sphere...
Personnaly, I don't like Victoria 2, because I don't like to play as GPs (ones available from the start). All (well, many) the other countries are very difficult to play and succeed as. In Victoria, you either big or in smbds sphere...
This is fairly true... though really, V2 is only retired. It's still got a bit of life left. =)
It's definitely a different game to not start as a GP and it takes some time to get down, but I probably had my most fun games as Japan, Brazil, and Sardinia-Piedmont, with Denmark and Siam good runs as well... none of which start as Great Powers. Heck, Brazil even makes a fun "first time out" game.
Vicky 2 by far. Every country/region comes with its own set of challenges. I recently started a game as a puppeted Congress Poland and turned it into a Great Power simply by virtue of industrialization. The only wars I fought were ones in which I allowed revolutionary spirals to force Russia to un-puppet me.
Currently playing a CSA campaign which isn't quite as much fun due to constant threat of a belligerent USA. That might change when I invade Africa. BWAHAHAHAHA
CKII always just winds up getting boring for me.
Currently playing a CSA campaign which isn't quite as much fun due to constant threat of a belligerent USA. That might change when I invade Africa. BWAHAHAHAHA
CKII always just winds up getting boring for me.
You got a point. If Vicky2 get the 3 expansions or don't get the game. Also remember Vicky2 has retired and awaits Vicky3.
CKII is still geting more love but many more expansions means more money and more oppurtunities.
CK2 without a doubt, much more engaging. That's of course not to say Vicky 2 is bad. It's still a great game but can be a bit confusing.
Objectively speaking, I believe that Victoria is soon to get a third iteration. Remember the Paradox poll where you could vote for Vic3 or Rome2?
So in that perspective, as a newcomer, I would buy CK2 and then wait for Vicky3, then buy that.
So in that perspective, as a newcomer, I would buy CK2 and then wait for Vicky3, then buy that.
I think you should try Vicky 2 ,and CK 2.
Both can be god depends what you want from game.
Similar to ask which wine is better - red, or white?
Both can be god depends what you want from game.
Similar to ask which wine is better - red, or white?
When it comes to Paradox games, it's usually a wise move to wait until development has been completed(ie all expansions/content released) before purchasing anything. When Divine Wind was released, EU3 felt like a whole game. EU4 still feels like it's missing a lot.
Better to let Paradox finish adding "features" and pay about 50% off than to buy it piecemeal at full price.
I wouldn't recommend Vicky2 without Heart of Darkness(and AHD). It really rounds the game out(and I actually like the crisis system). Pop Demand Mod takes Vicky 2 to a whole new level. The flavor is wonderful, as are all the additional changes to the trade goods.
Better to let Paradox finish adding "features" and pay about 50% off than to buy it piecemeal at full price.
I wouldn't recommend Vicky2 without Heart of Darkness(and AHD). It really rounds the game out(and I actually like the crisis system). Pop Demand Mod takes Vicky 2 to a whole new level. The flavor is wonderful, as are all the additional changes to the trade goods.
