Crusader Kings 2 merged with Mount and Blade: Warband

[cassius769]

Yes maybe, but not because of a thread with so few replies and the same 5-10 guys replying over and over + serveral of the ppl replying is against it. I am neutral myself but i am relatively logical in my way of thinking, so i don't believe they will put work into something like this.

yes, but if keep bitching and moaning about it and cause the stir it will be more and more popular. So perhaps someone who is in charge will see it and pick up on idea. So well done and keep doing good job.

 

[Olaus Petrus]

yes, but if keep bitching and moaning about it and cause the stir it will be more and more popular. So perhaps someone who is in charge will see it and pick up on idea. So well done and keep doing good job.

Constant moaning will probably just annoy people rather than win any wider support and there are some serious issues with that idea, which have been presented in this thread earlier and which haven't been countered with better arguments why it would be a great idea to make game like that.

 

[Wowwars]

all you need is MTW2 Gold and Warband and just download there mods there epic, but if u add le epic campiagn map of ck2 + its features cept for bbattle it can be le best game ever

 

[NCreepy]

yes, but if keep bitching and moaning about it and cause the stir it will be more and more popular. So perhaps someone who is in charge will see it and pick up on idea. So well done and keep doing good job.

I tried "nagging" when i wanted something as a kid...It didn't work then and i don't believe it will work as an adult either

 

[Slaunyeh]

I tried "nagging" when i wanted something as a kid...It didn't work then and i don't believe it will work as an adult either

Your IRL name ain t Nadia ain t it ?

 

[NCreepy]

Your IRL name ain t Nadia ain t it ?

Nope. Why do you ask ?

 

[AllThat4Nothing]

Since when Warband and Crusader Kings are so far off you would call them different genres?

you're joking right?

it's not about genre, it's about mechanic. similar genre means nothing in terms of merging two different game engines/mechanics/coding.

Yes, you are right - this is impossible. Why would I ever thought of that?

I never once used the word "impossible."

relax

 

[Mr. Capiatlist]

Why would it be so hard? Warband already does it! It just handles it by sending men in waves instead of putting them all on the field at once.

Because there is more to programming this than adding a single line in the CK exe that says "include M&B Warband". It would be hard because making video games is hard; especially stitching together two completely different games by different developers. You might as well play CK, when a battle comes save and close. Open up M&B and play a custom battle using the mods. When it is over, change the CK save file so you have either won or lost the battle and change troop numbers and locations as needed. Then do this for every battle you have.

 

[AllThat4Nothing]

Because there is more to programming this than adding a single line in the CK exe that says "include M&B Warband". It would be hard because making video games is hard; especially stitching together two completely different games by different developers. You might as well play CK, when a battle comes save and close. Open up M&B and play a custom battle using the mods. When it is over, change the CK save file so you have either won or lost the battle and change troop numbers and locations as needed. Then do this for every battle you have.

and in the process, they indirectly learn a lesson in how tedious such things are lol.

like the way you think, +1

in all seriousness though, good post. nailed it.

 

[Rambo]

I don't know which direction this thread is going, but I think many of us just feel it would be a great game, if someone designed a game that incorporated the 2 games. No one really expects P'dox to announce tomorrow that they will put all that time and effort into combining the 2 games. But maybe in the future, when thinking of a new game to design they would keep the idea in mind.

Some people seem to be getting worked up over someone's suggestion, it was only a suggestion and I think it was a good one.

 

[AllThat4Nothing]

you're right, the idea itself is cool, I do agree.

 

[NCreepy]

I don't know which direction this thread is going, but I think many of us just feel it would be a great game, if someone designed a game that incorporated the 2 games. No one really expects P'dox to announce tomorrow that they will put all that time and effort into combining the 2 games. But maybe in the future, when thinking of a new game to design they would keep the idea in mind.

Some people seem to be getting worked up over someone's suggestion, it was only a suggestion and I think it was a good one.

Don't worry I don't get worked up by discussing things like this.

 

[Olaus Petrus]

Some people seem to be getting worked up over someone's suggestion, it was only a suggestion and I think it was a good one.

I think that worked up is a wrong word. I think many people are sceptical towards the idea and have voiced their doubts about the concept. It's responsibility of those who want to sell their idea to make the sales pitch and counter those doubts. If it's a good idea then it will be easy to sell it to the people and convince them that it's the best thing since sliced bread.

 

[cassius769]

you're joking right?

it's not about genre, it's about mechanic. similar genre means nothing in terms of merging two different game engines/mechanics/coding.



I never once used the word "impossible."

relax

Oh so now it is not about genre but mechanics... And you know so much about mechanics.
You never used word impossible - therefore you should not be defending yourself.
I am happy - just to ridicule you and your silly moaning about "the mechanics".

If everyone had your stagnant mind people would still be picking lice from their furs hanging from the trees. It is so sad you cannot see it.

The whole thread is about how much fun would be to have an option of playing tactical battles within CK2. Just to remind you.

 

[Dearmad]

Not with mod.

I'm lucky to have had a small hand in that mod...

 

[Tempestra]

The whole thread is about how much fun would be to have an option of playing tactical battles within CK2. Just to remind you.

It certainly would be fun. You know what would be even more fun? If the game was free, and every time I gained a Prestige point it deposited $1 US in my bank account!

I know it's not practical, but can't we talk about how FUN it would be?

 

[gobolinno]

It certainly would be fun. You know what would be even more fun? If the game was free, and every time I gained a Prestige point it deposited $1 US in my bank account!

I know it's not practical, but can't we talk about how FUN it would be?

When this thread become a competition between who gets the better reductio ad absurdum of everyone?.

 

[Rambo]

It certainly would be fun. You know what would be even more fun? If the game was free, and every time I gained a Prestige point it deposited $1 US in my bank account!

I know it's not practical, but can't we talk about how FUN it would be?

Apparently not, seems to be a lot of Killjoys in this thread. Some people have no vision. Best to just ignore them.

 

[cassius769]

It certainly would be fun. You know what would be even more fun? If the game was free, and every time I gained a Prestige point it deposited $1 US in my bank account!

I know it's not practical, but can't we talk about how FUN it would be?

Fun as well is watching you making fun of yourself.

 

[theleif]

There is already a game that combine strategic gameplay with tactical battles in real time, with seamless zoom from stategic view to battle. It's pretty cool, but somewhat exhausting to play once your empire gets large.

You can buy it directly from them, or through Gamersgate and Impulse (GameStop Now).
Longbow games are currently working on the sequel that will take place during Caesars conquests:

As for combining CK2 and M&B, I think it's more or less impossible to do it in a good way, without essentially rewriting both engines. I don't think I would enjoy battles using the M&B battle engine, unless it could handle at least an army of 10000 soldiers fighting on each side. Also, consider that CK as it is now, already takes a (relatively) long time to play. If this where implemented, it would take at least twice as long, probably more. It would also rule out multiplayer. Not many players would like to sit idle while another players play a 30 min long tactical battle.

Finally this:

I think anyone that thinks adding a tactical game element to ck2 would be easy doesn't fully appreciate the challenges of software development. The content development alone for adding warband to ck2 would be enormous, figuring out how to represent 20000 soldier battles in warband, it would be alot of work for something that would inherently unbalance the game in favor of the human player. Integrating ck2 with a tactical battle resolution element would be exrremelly challenging to do well.

I would be happy enough if the TW series implemented the concepts of casus belli and bad boy status from the EU series.