Crusade Occupied county warscore is way out of hand

[Blodhevn]

Im playing in a overseer / AI controlled game where i just intercept or do small changes, the pope decided to declare a great holywar for the kingdom of bulgaria, and since theres no way the ai can defend vs the super catholics i decided i'd play on my "team" (asatru). Ill probably win this, but isnt this stupid? a single county, on the other side of the empire counts as 7.8 warscore, it is nowhere near the target at all. i get that there has to be a cap on how little a county counts in war so that it is actually worth sieging for war, but almost 10% warscore? in a crusade with 200k troops?

if they take 13 counties, 0 within the war-target, that is 101% warscore.

 

[ptWolv022]

Not all counties apply the same warscore. Not sure how it's decided, but my guess would be its based on contributions to main belligerent. I imagine many will be more like 4 percent in that region, but I can't be sure. The wiki mentions it's based on the defender's holdings, but I don't know if that means demesne or total, or some mix, or what. Regardless, I think this is a case of just needing to go fight the Crusaders. I'll be honest, they can be remarkably incompetent, if you can get a large enough army to smash into them on the far side of their carpet sieging. It'll take a while for them to actually fully get into the battle and that can be the end of them.

Honestly, it is kinda weird that there isn't a greater emphasis on the war target holdings in a Crusade, but it is what it is. You are the main defender, which usually means you're the biggest one (not always), so if they just siege stuff down unopposed, your realm and military would just slowly collapse as chaos spread. You need to beat them up to protect your realm, or else internal pressure and dwindling military resources will force you towards defeat.

Although, do keep in mind, you will get +1% War Score per month once the ticking war score starts from them not holding any of the war target. Considering it takes several months for them to siege down a county, it may end up that they have a war score deficit if they siege just one county. Though they will likely siege multiple, that does end up taking the edge off of their progress and means they have to occupy a lot more counties that just 14 or 15.

PS: Have you considered just letting Asatru lose and give up Bulgaria? If it has starting de jure, it'd only be a 1 or 2 county lose overall, which is honestly a pretty cruddy Crusade all around.

 

[Blodhevn]

Not all counties apply the same warscore. Not sure how it's decided, but my guess would be its based on contributions to main belligerent. I imagine many will be more like 4 percent in that region, but I can't be sure. The wiki mentions it's based on the defender's holdings, but I don't know if that means demesne or total, or some mix, or what. Regardless, I think this is a case of just needing to go fight the Crusaders. I'll be honest, they can be remarkably incompetent, if you can get a large enough army to smash into them on the far side of their carpet sieging. It'll take a while for them to actually fully get into the battle and that can be the end of them.

Honestly, it is kinda weird that there isn't a greater emphasis on the war target holdings in a Crusade, but it is what it is. You are the main defender, which usually means you're the biggest one (not always), so if they just siege stuff down unopposed, your realm and military would just slowly collapse as chaos spread. You need to beat them up to protect your realm, or else internal pressure and dwindling military resources will force you towards defeat.

Although, do keep in mind, you will get +1% War Score per month once the ticking war score starts from them not holding any of the war target. Considering it takes several months for them to siege down a county, it may end up that they have a war score deficit if they siege just one county. Though they will likely siege multiple, that does end up taking the edge off of their progress and means they have to occupy a lot more counties that just 14 or 15.

PS: Have you considered just letting Asatru lose and give up Bulgaria? If it has starting de jure, it'd only be a 1 or 2 county lose overall, which is honestly a pretty cruddy Crusade all around.

thanks for the reply, yes as you said even when they sieged bordering counties in the same area they didnt have as much warscore, although some even had 10% while not even being in the wartarget or part of my personal domain.

i managed to do what you said and i smashed them against the coast on the border of zaporizha and then just chain stomped them and resieged what they took in the bulgarian territory. after that the ticking warscore came in. only reason i got caught out was because i was already fighting against bavaria which was the biggest power in europe.

i probably could've forfeited the war yes, two duchies(bulgaria had part of moldavia).