Crown Authority for Secondary Kingdoms Broken (or Stealth Change?)

[unmerged(26764)]

I think crown authority is broken in 1.04.

In 1.03, kingdoms that didn't exist or that belonged to someone else used the crown authority of your primary kingdom. For example, if you let the spanish kingdoms die vassals in spain obeyed your primary kingdom crown authority -- for whether they could declare war, for their penalty, and for minimum levies.

In 1.04, the tooptips say it stills works this way. The vassals suffer the relationship penalty as if it worked this way. but they don't actually have to obey that level of authority.

I have a game as Aragon with absolute authority. My vassals in the rest of Iberia suffer a -30 penalty. The tooptips say they have 40 percent minimum levy. In 1.03, this is how the game also actually worked. Since 1.04, they are declaring private wars and don't have to provide 40 percent levies anymore. Although they suffer a -30 penalty as if they did, and the tooptips say they do.

Is this a bug? Or a stealth change? It's definitely a change.

 

[K-vald]

Do you have a save file of this issue? If your quota is full, use an external hosting site.

 

[MasterofMagic]

Yeah, I'm finally seeing what you are pointing out Valinn as in my game my Bishop is giving me ZERO levies in an Medium Authority realm. Not having that problem with Mayors or Barons though just this Bishop. I even have good relations at 56 with one of them and still ZERO where it should be at least 20%.

Take a look at this screen shot tell me what's wrong with it : http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/9792/ck213.png

Then look at this one (other bishop in Sweden): http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/5796/ck215.png

In the first screenshot that Bishop is under "Medium Crown Authority" do you see it in that screenshot? lol

In the 2nd screenshot that Bishop is under "High Crown Authority" and if you notice you CAN SEE IT in the screenshot.

Sooooo, something is amuck here because all the other holdings in that same provice with the Danish Bishop show the "Medium Crown Authority" info at the bottom of their tooltips.

Here's another one with "Medium Crown Authority" and I get ZERO of the Levy: http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5851/ck217.png

Now, here's that SAME little girl in the above screenshot from a Jmaitland view : http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/8797/ck216.png

lol same crown authority of Medium and here she gives me some......troups I mean.

There's some screenshots that show some silliness going on after the patch 1.04

I probably have a saved game but I don't know how to upload all that stuff and we shouldn't have to really as this is a PITA to us the CUSTOMERS. I spent enough time getting those screenshots together.

 

[Luhood]

I probably have a saved game but I don't know how to upload all that stuff and we shouldn't have to really as this is a PITA to us the CUSTOMERS. I spent enough time getting those screenshots together.

Though on the other hand, with a game of this magnitude, replicating every little possible thing is a real pain in the flank, which is why the savegames are needed. These show them exactly what has happened and not, and lets them find which parts are possibly wrong and be able to fix them in the future patches. It ain't a matter of laziness, but of convenience!

 

[unmerged(452264)]

I think Patch 1.4 somehow broke the crown law settings. My vassals are now warring on each other even when all the Kingdom titles I hold are set to Medium Crown Authority or higher. These vassals are de jure subjects of these kingdoms; so, they shouldn't be able to do that. In fact, they weren't doing that before; and, I've been playing this game since it came out. They only started doing that after the recent patch.

If the crown laws are indeed broken, as from my experience and from what the other posters are seeing with their levies, you guys had better fix it up really fast. Crown laws mean a LOT in this game.

Btw, I posted a similar thread in the Main forum.

 

[Montague68]

Here is my savegame:

King Laurence of England, High Crown Authority. Note Earl Eberhard of Wiltshire - he will inherit a duchy in Germany when Duke Meinhard the Fat (ID # 592516) dies, and despite High Crown Authority, Wiltshire will go over to the HRE.

 

[Doomdark]

Here is my savegame:

King Laurence of England, High Crown Authority. Note Earl Eberhard of Wiltshire - he will inherit a duchy in Germany when Duke Meinhard the Fat (ID # 592516) dies, and despite High Crown Authority, Wiltshire will go over to the HRE.

This is a bug, and not a new one from the looks of it. Fixing.

I cannot reproduce the other reported issues without save games.

 

[ForAll]

I have just checked my savegame and as far as I can tell, even vassals that are not my direct vassals (I had to look so far, because all my direct vassals were giving me more than 30% of their levy) will give me the 30%. I had a count who recently lost a ducal claim war for one of my dukes and had negative opinion of me, his opinion modifier thus lead to him wanting to give me no levies at all, still he provided about 30% as the tooltip advertised. And that's an old savegame from 1.03

Also I have gotten the warning for a county leaving my realm upon inheritage recently but when I loaded the save now it didn't show. Is there a way to reproduce all the warnings that come up on the top of the screen or should come up if I hadn't clicked them away? Otherwise I'll just have to keep an eye on it and see if it actually is lost at some point.