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Dracko81

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Arghhh another thread about CA. I've decided after much confusion in peoples posts, to see if we can come to a definate as to how this actually works within the mechanics.

If you want to add something as fact, please back it up with evidence, please do request something to be added without evidence. I will try to keep this first post with all proven mechanics for easier reference.

FACTS(V1.07b [XCSD]):

Empires

De Jure Kingdoms follow their Empires Laws, if they are a vassal of it.

If a kingdom is not de jure, they will not follow your CA.

A duchy of another de jure empire, follows the CA of its de jure kingdom/empire.

If a duchy has no crown to answer to - even if not de jure - it will answer to its de facto empire.

Kingdoms follow the CA of their de jure empire, even if they are vassalised.

Vassals of de jure kingdoms within empires do not have a malus towards their king for CA - this is instead incurred upon the emperor.

Possible Bug:
AI can raise CA as a de jure Kingdom vassal of an emperor. CA is unaffected, but they are dislike by their vassals for raising the CA. If the AI raises CA of a de jure kingdom and then becomes Emperor, the new CA will come into effect. Human players of a de jure kingdom can not affect their CA and are locked into the CA of the Empire as a vassal.

Kingdoms

UNKNOWN - not really I just haven't done this part yet. :)

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This is just a start, all suggestions are welcome. This is not the thread for saying something is ahistorical.
 
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However as an Emperor, a human player are allowed to change the vassal kingdom's CA provided that player holds the kingdom title. Opinion malus & CA effects are WAD in the said de jure kingdom.
 

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Well, you should add that the High CA law that prevents titles from leaving a Realm only affects the top-level Realm and does not prevent titles from switching between Vassal realms within. So, while an independent Kingdom with High CA will stay cohesive, once that Kingdom becomes part of an Empire the Kingdom can now lose territory to other vassals within the Empire.
 

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However as an Emperor, a human player are allowed to change the vassal kingdom's CA provided that player holds the kingdom title. Opinion malus & CA effects are WAD in the said de jure kingdom.

Agreed they are WAD. The possible bug is referring to the AI being able to circumvent your laws and start a vote for a law change that they should not be able to change.

But yes an Emperor is allowed to have differring CA for de jure kingdoms of his empire, I am rather tired and don't have the time atm to finish and reproduce every little thing. Which is why I ask for suggestions. ;)