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kviiri

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How much, and what sort of effort will it take to found a faction with members of varying ideologies? For example, say I'm Fascist Italy, and instead of going the historical route with Germany, I want to forge a faction of traditionally Catholic European powers - Italy, France, Franco's Spain, Portugal and Ireland. What exactly does a country need to do to get others on its side, particularly if the alliance is a mish-mash of Fascist and Democratic states like this example?
 

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I'm betting its possible. In HoI3 you could get non-ideologically aligned countries into your faction, it just took longer and was hard because of their natural inclinations and the possibility that other factions were also working on it. And in real life there was a very real possibility that Italy could have aligned with the Allies instead.

In HoI4 it will be possible somehow again I'm sure, but you also have the chance to just try to to change Ireland and France's ideology.
 

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I am pretty sure its possible. The only question is if they would accept. Overall, as seen in the finland livestream where the combat AI was accidently turned off, nations with an different ideology have an relation hit. Its basicly all about relations, so if you manage to get the relation high enough they will probably join your faction anyway.
 

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Yep, Allied Italy might be fun too - but the way I see it, Italy's most natural rivals are fellow imperialist colonizers France and UK, both inclined to be Allied, so while joining the Allied nations would be possible, I think it's in Italy's best interests to befriend at most one and attack the other one.
 

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@kviiri

Infact if you take a look at the french national focus tree you can see that they can actually decide against the allies and found the "little entente" followed up by an branch that helps them to invite yugoslavia, romania and to guarantee poland themself.

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Italy can decide against the iron pact and has focuses that help them befriend the nations around them like bulgaria, yugoslavia, bulgaria, romania etc. Sadly their tree is cut off due to the lesser resolution.
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With that said national focus are only shortcuts to specific goals of yours of course, so you could archive most of that stuff (except stuff that exclude each other like Pact of Iron and Italy First) by yourself, it would just take longer and would be more expensive.
 
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