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delpiero1234

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This looks like that same bug where AI just freezes and does nothing in a war... If that is the case, restarting the game should make them move..
Definitely a bug though.
 

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well, it's very difficult to fix a bug where you just see "the AI doesn't do X" since it could be a range of different issues that's causing it. What would help would be posting a save with "move this army to that province, to let the battle start. See AI movements" since with the save, Wiz should have a much better idea of the exact function or variable that's messing things up.
 

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Why would you, as an ally to a war, lose 1/3 of your nation? Spain should typically peace out at their own expense if you just hang in there.

Also, this "AI just standing there doing nothing" bug was mentioned in several threads already and seem to be mainly related to colonizing nations. All other nations don't seem to have this AI issue but ones like Spain, Portugal, England (haven't seen this with France or Netherlands though) have this AI problem mid-game and on.

As others mentioned, saving/loading the game will usually jolt them into action for a few turns before they become dormant again.
 

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I had very similar issue in my recent game as Byzantium.

Me as war leader and France as my OP ally were at war with Aragon, Austria and some HRE minions.
I was besieging Austria provinces, while Austrian army was besieging France provinces. Two provinces from one of Austria army (50k) were big French army (77k). And that army did absolutely nothing, allowing Austria to occupy 3 of their provinces. After I made peace with Aragon they moved one of their army, that was fighting in Iberia, and attacked Austrian one. That big stack did nothing for the whole war.
 
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It's happened to me, too, but I don't think it's a bug, I think it's smart-ish AI.

When that battle gets to the point when your defeat is certain, why would they throw their own troops on the bonfire? And by the by, it's clear you're going to lose even before that second stack hits you. I notice they join my battles when it will make a difference, but not if it's a lost cause.

Though, in the game, just as in real life, it's infuriating.

EDIT: I see Wiz's post up there, which throws my theory into the garbage bin.

AI is not hardcoded to think smart like humans and never will be. But situations like this is none other than bug. Anyway this video is old, but Wiz confirmed that is a bug and still not fixed, thats it.
 

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AI is not hardcoded to think smart like humans and never will be. But situations like this is none other than bug. Anyway this video is old, but Wiz confirmed that is a bug and still not fixed, thats it.

Actually, Wiz said it looks like a bug and he'd look into it...

My question, could it have been due to the steam not running ai freeze issue that cropped up a few patches back?
 

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One common piece of AI idiocy I keep seeing in large-scale wars are countries having their gigantic stacks of troops just stand around in one province, constantly taking attrition due to being over the supply limit. Does anyone know if this is intentional.
 

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One common piece of AI idiocy I keep seeing in large-scale wars are countries having their gigantic stacks of troops just stand around in one province, constantly taking attrition due to being over the supply limit. Does anyone know if this is intentional.
happens to my games all the time in one game ottomans were sieging hre and hre had 120k stack in 1 province doing nothing but attritioning itself to death.

In other game I managed to see AI warscore feeding cause enemy AI sniped all 5k-15k stacks my ally had with 2x 50k stacks while my ally was sieging and standing still diminishing our alliance 40% warscore accumulated. GGAI

p.s. anyone interested its on my youtube channel netherlands part 46 around 1h 10mins+ If you dont mind alot of swearing, complaining and all that shit and seeing some mistakes I made aswell(that was a really unlucky day to play EU4 for me)
 

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Restarting the game seems to get the AI back on track. I find AI doing stupid stuff (like standing still on one province and not joining me during a fight) during a long session. I wonder if there is a reason for that.
 

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I hate the AI's warfare "smarts" SO MUCH.

Not only is this one of the common and immensely annoying issues, so is the AI being happy leaving a 49% siege but not wanting to leave -49% siege. Maybe confirmation bias, but I bloody swear it happens ALL THE TIME.
 

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This has happened to me too often recently. I'll be screaming at my @#$# allies "JOIN THE FIGHT, JOIN THE @#$# FIGHT" that we would win if their army would cross 2 provinces... and then they don't.
 

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I, too, sometimes have issues when AI starts to act weirdly, like besieging only 1 enemy province, while the rest of the army just stays at home. Restarting the game seems to fix it most of the times. I would like to see "restart AI" button in a game or options menu and I think that would be useful.
 

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This particular issue was fixed, yes. As I've said before, the AI 'freezing' is not one single bug.
 

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When can I expect to see this fix in place Wiz? Because last Monday I was playing online as France (I was the host) and on a war against Burgundy one of my vassals refused to come and help me and preferred to leave his army on an adjacent province to a defensive battle, and I was royally pissed off. This happens way too often.

Also, who do I need to plead with to have the effing chat fixed?!? It's been one year, dealing with it every time I play the game, and since I'm usually the host it's extra stress to me because I have to use the chat more often than other players. :(