Or nerf their ability to wage war/ fund others / support rebels for at least 60 years.
Good ming players makes virtually every other asian country unplayable. All of the countries with good ideas + good starting leaders start out small and it doesn't matter if Ming isn't near your immediate vinicity; they'll just fund your rivals in attempt to sabotage your start. There's no point to competitively play in Asia if there's no easy expansion (unless your Ming). The only other asian country that's remotely in comparable size to Ming is Timurid, but of course throwing money at the problem is also very effective weapon against Timurid as well (rebels).
As I understand it, all foreign countries that had any sort of diplomatic relations with Ming were viewed as subjects who were obligated to pay tribute. Doesn't make any sense historical wise for Ming to lavish their wealth to "uncivilized barbarians" let alone care what's happening far away from their realm. Idk whether it was intended to restrict Western European powers' vision of Asia for gameplay reasons, but the same should apply for Ming if so.
There is no proper counterweight to keep Ming in check and literally the only goal Ming has is just to westernize as fast as possible, because they already start with enough development to curbstomp the rest of the world, they just need to only get rid of that 50% autonomy. Even with 50% autonomy, they still effectively start with +600 development and no one near their vicinity comes close to that.
I'm considering familiarizing my myself with MIng strictly because of these reasons, not because I actually like Ming.
Good ming players makes virtually every other asian country unplayable. All of the countries with good ideas + good starting leaders start out small and it doesn't matter if Ming isn't near your immediate vinicity; they'll just fund your rivals in attempt to sabotage your start. There's no point to competitively play in Asia if there's no easy expansion (unless your Ming). The only other asian country that's remotely in comparable size to Ming is Timurid, but of course throwing money at the problem is also very effective weapon against Timurid as well (rebels).
As I understand it, all foreign countries that had any sort of diplomatic relations with Ming were viewed as subjects who were obligated to pay tribute. Doesn't make any sense historical wise for Ming to lavish their wealth to "uncivilized barbarians" let alone care what's happening far away from their realm. Idk whether it was intended to restrict Western European powers' vision of Asia for gameplay reasons, but the same should apply for Ming if so.
There is no proper counterweight to keep Ming in check and literally the only goal Ming has is just to westernize as fast as possible, because they already start with enough development to curbstomp the rest of the world, they just need to only get rid of that 50% autonomy. Even with 50% autonomy, they still effectively start with +600 development and no one near their vicinity comes close to that.
I'm considering familiarizing my myself with MIng strictly because of these reasons, not because I actually like Ming.
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