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I wonder if its possible to create a new emperor title, lets say Emperor Of Iberia with the requirement of at least 75% of Iberian counties?

The emperor would create new kingdoms instead of duchies with the kings.
 

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Not possible. The only emperor in the game (Byzantium) is really just a king with prolly hardcoded title emperor.
 

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Constantine XI said:
An Imperial title would have to either have descended directly from the old Roman Empire (Byzantium) or be granted by the Pope, as in the case of Charlemagne. It's not something you're supposed to be able to create, atleast as far as I understand it...

Although this has nothing to do with the topic, the above is incorrect. Sancho of Castille united Spain (right before CK scenario I) and named himself Emperor of Spain, despite having nothing to do with the Romans or the Pope.
 

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sd6310a said:
Although this has nothing to do with the topic, the above is incorrect. Sancho of Castille united Spain (right before CK scenario I) and named himself Emperor of Spain, despite having nothing to do with the Romans or the Pope.
IIRC the first "Emperor of Spain" was Ferdinand I of Castilla, even before the game starts.
 

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sd6310a said:
Although this has nothing to do with the topic, the above is incorrect. Sancho of Castille united Spain (right before CK scenario I) and named himself Emperor of Spain, despite having nothing to do with the Romans or the Pope.

That's not completely exact. The king that named himself 'Emperor of the Spains' was Sancho III of Navarre (992-1035), not of Castille. Castille had at that time the rank of countship. One of the sons of Sancho, Ferdinand I of Castille, inherited the countship with the rank of kingdom.
 

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Mjuice said:
Isn't the title of emperor in the game just the orthodox equivalent of king? In the scenario selection screen it lists the Byzantine ruler as "King of Byzantium".

No just, a Catholic grabbing the Byzantine title will still be "Emperor of Byzantium".
 

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Carmir said:
That's not completely exact. The king that named himself 'Emperor of the Spains' was Sancho III of Navarre (992-1035), not of Castille. Castille had at that time the rank of countship. One of the sons of Sancho, Ferdinand I of Castille, inherited the countship with the rank of kingdom.

Yes, actually...you are correct. I must have been tired when I wrote the forementioned post. :)
 

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Havard said:
IIRC the first "Emperor of Spain" was Ferdinand I of Castilla, even before the game starts.

It was the father, Sancho. He divided his Kingdom amongst his sons...his son Ferdinand divided his own domain amongst his sons as well, leaving CK players with five Spanish Kingdoms in the 1066 scenario. ;)
 

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The only Emperor's in the game should be the Byzantine one and possibly, an added one for the Holy roman one...both derived from the Romans...remember, the Pope used the justification that there wasn't any Emperor in Constantinople when he crowned our favourite frank...

Numerous other rules have called themselves emperor. Bulgarian (913-1018 and 1186-1393) and Serb rulers (1346-1371) for instance...but simply handing out that title to all who have at one point called themselves emperor would simply cause the title to lose it's meaning. I say stick with it as the title for inheritor(s) of the Roman tradition.
 
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Havard said:
Not to forget the Emperor of Cyprus (1184-91) :D

Well, that Isaac may have been a Commeni, but he's still to pathetic to mention. :)