DesertFoxx said:
In a mp game, is there a good reason to go CR Catholicism as France/Austria/Spain or reformed as England?
Yes there are some, but it depends on you.
DesertFoxx said:
I want to confirm what the wiki said here:
CRC:
-3 tech, 50 morale, -10 trade
What do these mean precisely? The morale one I get, its a .5 increase I think, but the -3 & -10? Is that a percentage increase/decrease? As in my tech costs 3% more & I get 10% less trade income? Or I trade 10% less efficiently?
Yes for the morale. It's a big boost, as much as what you'd get from a fully Land-oriented DP slider.
The -3 is just a small penalty on techcosts, but it's not so high compared to other modifiers, and should not amount to a +3% increase of techcosts.
The -10 is problematic, as it's a -10 on TE (
Trade Efficiency), and this affects both your income and your merchants' durability.
DesertFoxx said:
Because man, Protestant looks like its much better than anything else with a +10 tax & production & a tech bonus, with its only malus being a higher stability cost...
Tax isn't much compared to production and trade. Production is never more important than trade, and comes close only with a really huge colonial empire. Tech bonus is really small overall. Stabcost increase would mean that with a religion-homogenous country, you'd get approximately +50% on the cost of stability.
DesertFoxx said:
So if I'm playing England, is there a good reason to ever go reformed? Other than flavor? I really only play mp games, so efficiency does count for something. :>/
Go reformed if you don't have too much colonies finished already, play the insular England and rely heavily on trade. Trade gives you more benefits than Tax + Production. And more colonists, so as to place more colonies.
DesertFoxx said:
I mean I'd consider going CRC just for the 'diplomatic' bonuses it affords me (I could justify a more aggressive foreign policy that way
), but it seems like I'd be shooting myself in the foot a bit.
Go for CRC for two reasons : morale-boost and missionaries. CRC's main advantages are the morale-boost and the additional missionary you get every year compared to plain catholicism.
DesertFoxx said:
What religions do you guys go for as Spain? France? England? Austria?
It depends on situation. Choose the religion primarily not on the advantages/disadvantages they each give, but based on the easiness of converting all your provinces to that religion.
If, for example, you're playing a german minor and have conquered the whole of Italy and France. You have only german culture, meaning that french and italian provinces are hard to convert. You should have a majority of catholic provinces (
around 50%), followed by around an equal share of reformed and protestant provinces (
around 25% each). Go for catholics, because most of the catholic provinces are wrong-culture, and thus hard to convert, while all protestant ones are state-culture, along with a couple of reformed. The total cost of converting to one of those cultures will be much lower for going to catholicism than protestantism or reformism. And go for CRC either if you are innovative (
you need missionaries) or have a really bursting economy (
and have the money to send even more missionaries). Remember that CRC conversions make the provinces catholic.
OTOH, if you conquered the dutch provinces rather than italians, the situation is different : you have roughly an equal share of protestant and catholic provinces but many reformed provinces (around 30/30/40). Again, all protestants are easy-to-convert germans, as well as many catholics. This leaves you with many more hard-to-convert reformed provinces than likewise-hard catholics. Go for reformed.
Finally, if you conquered both dutch & italian in addition to french and german provinces, the situation is more open : while you have even less protestant provinces, you now have an equal share of reformed and catholic provinces, with either choice as expensive in conversions as the other one. In that situation, choose whether you prefer catholicism/CRC advantages (
lower stab, more diplomats / same with more missionaries & better morale) or reformed advantages (
bigger income from trade, slightly better tech progression, more colonists).
And if you conquered Scandinavia, the game is even more open-handed, with equality in protestant, catholic and reformed shares.
