Coup d'états

[Red_Communist]

I was wondering if Coup d'états will happen in Victoria Two. Here's an example.

Well say if the British government introduces very unpopular reforms, or does something over the top it just pisses people off. Than there could be two factions, Monarchists who support the reforms, and "Republicans" who are fed up with the Monarchy and want to over throw them, and don't like the reforms. Which would put the country into a civil war which in turn start a Coup d'état.

Anyways when your playing you could see what happens, maybe your country or your empire breaks up, or of course the coup d'état succeeded and you have a new government all together.

I would enjoy seeing my country fighting over who will run the country...


Sorry in advance if this was already an idea.

 

[Zanza]

The rebels in V1 can already change your government if they hold the capital for some time.

 

[Earl Uhtred]

If EU3 style 'rebels with a cause' don't make it into V2 in some form, I'll eat everyone's hat.

 

[Xz2]

Well say if the British government introduces very unpopular reforms, or does something over the top it just pisses people off. Than there could be two factions, Monarchists who support the reforms, and "Republicans" who are fed up with the Monarchy and want to over throw them, and don't like the reforms. Which would put the country into a civil war which in turn start a Coup d'état.

Shouldnt the most natrual thing be first a coup and then, maybe, a civil war? A coup isn't really like a revolution. Its more like some officers and there loyal troops chargin the palace not country wide uprisings

 

[Red_Communist]

Shouldnt the most natrual thing be first a coup and then, maybe, a civil war? A coup isn't really like a revolution. Its more like some officers and there loyal troops chargin the palace not country wide uprisings

Well a civil war can still happen with the government in power, than a coup could happen because the government is vulnerable. And the civil war could still go on.. but that was an example though. A coup can happen any way.

 

[unmerged(77752)]

It would be good if rebels had brain in this game, rather than charging at government units that were clearly gonna mop the floor with them...

But it would be good if there were active, coordinated uprisings that led to coups. The One thing I would love for there to be in this game is being able to support rebel forces in other nations either through shipment of arms (ala Germany shippment of Arms in the Easter Rising) and giving them money to incite the locals to rise up. Rebels should be able to get outside support, there's both internal and external factors in them rising, hopefully there's a better system in this game for that. There were sooo many times in Vic1 that I would see rebels rise up and want to help them, but couldn't do a thing...

 

[JimmyCos]

that's a civil war, coups are not popular, usually a small group takes the decision and the tool to achieve it is your own army

 

[Snaggleooo]

Isn't it usually coups that lead to civil wars. Think about the start of the Spanish Civil War. Franco gave the order for the coup, but it was unsuccessful in many places, so it tuned into civil war. It was the same with the Bolshevik revolution in Russia. The Commies took over the government in St. Petersburg and Moscow (later), but th vast majority of the country was not in support of the coup, so it turned into civil war.

 

[Orinsul]

France is a good place for coup examples there were over a dozen during the time period, most of them unsuccessful and quite a few almost entirely insignificant but certainly evidence that they happen.
Hopefully all sorts of internal strife will be included in the thousands of promised events. Hopefully they just wont be boxed together and hardcoded like the one government change event for all extremist governments in Victoria was. But certainly coups are there from the first and bound to be in the second, for all the historicals to be there as an option would be nice to see mind.

 

[Red_Communist]

Like I said.. it was an example.

And every coups different.