Doomdark gave us clear light to make a suggestion for the most needed county of Bar (as requested by the community). Well here it is. 
Today the county of Bar is represented by Verdun as a compensation (sort of).
C_Verdun was given b_longuyon as a new capital and b_verdun was changed into a temple to better represent the early bishops of Verdun which wasn't county holders. B_grandpre was removed from start, but will become active if invested in a temple in the county.
In 1134.1.1, c_Verdun changes it capital to b_Verdun as this is the date were it was changed into a prince-bishopric. More to that later.
The new baronies, in yellow, would need a name in the loc.
b_etain # Étain
b_stenay # Stenay
b_commercy # Commercy
b_saintdizier # Saint-Dizier
b_joinville # Joinville
Three baronies was moved from original c_verdun to new c_bar including: b_barleduc, b_vaucouleurs and b_saintmihel.
Landed Titles
I think that Verdun should be part of Lower Lorraine and Bar should be part of Upper Lorraine. Then they talk about the Archbishopric of Trier they always include the Bishopric of Verdun in it so that's how I motivate that change.
1. Counts of Bar
The new holders of Bar would be similar to those of Verdun (in game).
c_bar list
2. Counts/Prince-Bishops of Verdun
Verdun is far trickier and this is basically where all deep research went.
c_verdun list
But for it to become a Prince-Bishopric the holders must have the b_verdun.
Also as a bonus here is a few more bishops of Laon.
b_laon
3. New Characters
I will present the new characters in sections of dynasties rather than succession order. The c. 50 new characters is all the holders of Verdun + missing relatives (I've chosen to add up to grandfather generation if spouse already exist just to bind up some singles ladies in game). All birth and death dates is aimed to be as historically correct as possible, but if no sources about those dates I've just made something up which makes sense in game in relation to other characters.
Wigeriche
Two missing characters; count Friedrich of Verdun and his great uncle Adalbero of Verdun. Not much to tell about them more than that they're missing. I suggest that you change "Adelbero" to "Adalbero" to id 161541, it's probably a typo error.
New Characters
Suggested changes to the dynasty while we're at it
De Chiny
When I added these two prince-bishops I looked up their founder (always do) and found that the first Louis de Chiny was the son of Eudes Karling (6410). I build on that and added the ancestors and brother to Otton de Chiny (33207). I also suggest that you change Otton's name to Eudes since he's frankish and because his ancestor, Eudes Karling, is called Eudes not Otton (both is a variation of each other). By adding Albert, Otton's oldest son, I landed the single lady Agnes Scarponnois (34307) as well.
Required changes to existing characters!
De Namur
Two new characters: son and grandson of Henri de Namur (161537).
Von Metz
Next dynasty is a branch of the dynasty von Metz. There is two options here: add an new dynasty [von Bliescastel] or you just keep the old dynasty [von Metz] (which I've decided to show you here). Folmar married his second cousin Clementia von Metz (31547).
De Hiergis and De Rethel
Héribrand de Hiergis was an overlord/seigneur in France. He married Hodierne de Rethel and got Manassès de Hiegis which was then cousin of Melisande of Jerusalem which send after him in 1140 to be Constable of Jerusalem. Since Constable doesn't even exist as a title in the game he should be marshal. To achieve this I've given him a 9 base in martial skill and given him the trait brilliant strategist. He was later exiled and married Alix de Chiny, the daughter of Albert de Chiny I mentioned before, in 1160. He later died of illness as a monk in an abbey not too far from Liege. After Héribrands death, in 1114, Hodierne married Roger d'Hauteville (30877) prince/duke of Antioch the same year.
De Grandpré
De Grandpré was a frankish dynasty. One count of Verdun was in this dynasty as well as one prince-bishop. I added the spouse of Henri and made them marry right before their son, Prince-Bishop Robert, was born. I want to report a typo error on your behalf as well, 161250 is named Liutgard not Luitgard.
De Dampierre
Three characters. Guillaume is the new founder and, along with the already existing son, he is given two daughters, Elisabeth and Odette, who gave birth to prince-bishops of Verdun. A little change could be done with Guy (7488) as he could be both born later and should be the son of new Guillaume.
De La Tourette
Frankish dynasty who got a lot of clerics in it. Jean married Alix de Dreux and had Jean II who married Odette de Dampierre and they got Jean III, Prince-Bishop Ranoul of Verdun, Bishop Robert of Langres and a daughter Helvide/Ermengarde/Alix who gave birth to Prince-Bishop D'Aix. Jean got Bishop Robert of Laon and Archbishop Raolf of Lyon. Since it's a frankish family, Raolf should be renamed to Raoul and change culture from Occitan to Frankish. Also "de la Tourette" is the original name of the dynasty, but I think "de Thourotte" would be better since I only found sources on that name.
De Mello and de Traînel
Prince-Bishop Guy of Verdun and his Aunt who married Garnier de Traînel and got the previous Prince-Bishop Guy who died somewhere around 1245.
De Grandson
The birthdate of Agnes von Neuenburg need to be moved forward twenty years or she'd be at least 50 when she got her children. All the "employer=" is for the dynasty to stay in Genevé and Neuchatel.
d'Apremont
Two missing ancestors to Prince-Bishop Jean of Metz who should also be the Prince-Bishop of Verdun. These two marries women I've reported before in this post. Prince-Bishop Jean (31554) should have the new parents, Geoffroy and Elisabeth.
Other single dynasties
These characters might as well be lowborns since they're on their own until someone research their dynasty trees and adds relatives somewhat important to the CK2 world. Some have connection to the dynasties above this point, but there is a gap in sources between the folks.
New Dynasties to add
Changes to existing dynasties!
De Grandson, De Traînel and De Hiergis is three vital dynasties to add, the rest is a matter of taste since they're single member dynasties for now.
What if we (PI) don't want to add a new county?
I would like you to at least change the b_verdun to a bishopric and keep the b_verdun list as well as all legit (more than one dynasty member) characters for immersion. We're very grateful for any changes made to achieve historicity in this region.
Sources
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN (UPPER) NOBILITY.htm#_Toc260899887 - Sources on counts of Verdun
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAR.htm#_Toc161905004 - Sources on Counts of Bar.
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/Trier.htm#_Toc321762797 - Look at this for the bishops/prince-bishops of Verdun origin and similar. Correct dates.
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDY Kingdom.htm#EblesIVGrandsondiedafter1235 - De Grandson Family
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN (UPPER) NOBILITY.htm#OttoChinyB - De Chiny from Eudes Karling
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMBURG.htm#GobertVAspremontdied1190B - d'Apremont family
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY.htm#HeribrandHiergesdied1114 - De Hiergis Family
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN FRANCE.htm#JeanIIThourottedied1235B - De la Tourette/De Thourotte Family
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOT...ILITY.htm#GodefroiIIIBliesgaudied1098orafterB - Bliescastel/von Metz Family additions
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDIAN NOBILITY.htm#GuyMelloVerdunAuxerre - De Mello Family
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN (UPPER) NOBILITY.htm#HenriIGrandprediedbefore1151B - De Grandpré Family
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY.htm#GuillaumeIDampierrediedbefore1161B - De Dampierre Additions
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN (UPPER) NOBILITY.htm#Godefroidied995B - Friedrich Wigeriche
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIA.htm#ThierryIdied1027B - Bishop Adalbero Wigeriche of Metz
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN (LOWER) NOBILITY.htm#HenriINamurDurbuydied1088 - Source on son and grandson of Henri de Namur (161537)
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY.htm#AdelaideRoucyMCononFalconSarrazGrandson - Aelis de Ramerupt, wife of Conan.
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LUXEMBOURG.htm#Conraddied1086B - Mathilde von Luxemburg's father and explaination of the birth date.
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY.htm#GuyTrainelVerdundied1245 - De Traînel
Hope this helps a bit to decide to add this.
Today the county of Bar is represented by Verdun as a compensation (sort of).
Code:
# 129 - Verdun
# County Title
title = c_verdun
# Settlements
max_settlements = 5
b_longuyon = castle # Longuyon
b_verdun = [COLOR="#FFFF00"]temple[/COLOR] # Verdun
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]b_etain = city # Étain[/COLOR]
#b_grandpre = temple # Grandpré
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]#b_stenay = city # Stenay[/COLOR]
#b_doaumont = castle # Douaumont
# Misc
culture = frankish
religion = catholic
# History
1134.1.1= { capital = b_verdun }
Code:
# ??? - Bar
# County Title
title = c_bar
# Settlements
max_settlements = 4
b_barleduc = castle # Bar-le-Duc
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]b_commercy = city # Commercy
b_saintdizier = temple # Saint-Dizier
[/COLOR]
#b_vaucouleurs = castle # Vaucouleurs
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]#b_joinville = city # Joinville[/COLOR]
#b_saintmihel = temple # Saint-Mihiel
# Misc
culture = frankish
religion = catholic
# HistoryC_Verdun was given b_longuyon as a new capital and b_verdun was changed into a temple to better represent the early bishops of Verdun which wasn't county holders. B_grandpre was removed from start, but will become active if invested in a temple in the county.
In 1134.1.1, c_Verdun changes it capital to b_Verdun as this is the date were it was changed into a prince-bishopric. More to that later.
The new baronies, in yellow, would need a name in the loc.
b_etain # Étain
b_stenay # Stenay
b_commercy # Commercy
b_saintdizier # Saint-Dizier
b_joinville # Joinville
Three baronies was moved from original c_verdun to new c_bar including: b_barleduc, b_vaucouleurs and b_saintmihel.
Landed Titles
I think that Verdun should be part of Lower Lorraine and Bar should be part of Upper Lorraine. Then they talk about the Archbishopric of Trier they always include the Bishopric of Verdun in it so that's how I motivate that change.
1. Counts of Bar
The new holders of Bar would be similar to those of Verdun (in game).
c_bar list
Code:
959.1.1={
liege="d_upper_lorraine"
959.1.1={
holder = 11008 #Friedrich Wigeriche
}
978.5.18={
holder=11004 #Dietrich Wigeriche (22007)
}
1027.1.1={
holder=7974 #Friedrich III Wigeriche
}
1033.1.1={
holder=11001 #Sophia Wigeriche
}
1071.1.1={
holder=20250 #Thierry de Scarponnois
}
1103.1.2=
{
holder=7565
}
1149.3.10=
{
holder=7566
}
1170.7.25=
{
holder=34300
}
1190.10.1=
{
holder=7568
}
1214.2.13=
{
holder=7569
}
1239.11.13=
{
holder=7570
}
1291.1.1=
{
liege="k_france"
holder=455763
}
1302.9.1=
{
holder=455761
}
1336.11.1=
{
holder=455760
}2. Counts/Prince-Bishops of Verdun
Verdun is far trickier and this is basically where all deep research went.
c_verdun list
Code:
895.1.1={
liege="d_lower_lorraine"
holder=144994 #Richwin Reginar
}
923.11.15={
holder=144993 #Otto Reginar
}
944.1.1={
holder=1306 #Konrad Salian
}
963.1.1={
holder=144992 #Gottfried Wigeriche
}
998.9.3={
holder=161911 #Friedrich Wigeriche
}
1022.1.6={
holder=11037 #Herman Wigeriche
}
1024.1.1={
holder=161916 #Louis I de Chiny
}
1025.1.1={
holder=11030 #Gottfried III (the Bearded) Wigeriche
}
1069.1.1={
holder=20248 #Gottfried IV (the Hunchback) Wigeriche
}
1076.2.27={
holder=30202 #Konrad II Salian
}
1086.1.1={
holder=10072 #Godefroy V
}
1099.7.15={
holder=20250 #Theibaut de Scarponnois
}
1105.1.1={
holder=7565 #Renaud I de Scarponnois
}
1120.1.1={
holder=161965 #Henri de Grandpré
}
1124.1.1={
holder=7565 #Renaud I de Scarponnois
}
1134.1.1={
holder=161912 #Albéron de Chiny
}
1156.1.1={
holder=161920 #Albert de Marcey
}
1162.4.14={
holder=161922 #Richard de Namur
}
1171.1.1={
holder=161913 #Arnoul de Chiny
}
1181.1.1={
holder=161926 #Heinrich von Metz
}
1186.1.1={
holder=161930 #Albert de Hierges
}
1208.7.25={
holder=161931 #Robert de Grandpré
}
1216.8.25={
holder=31554 #Jean d'Apremont
}
1224.1.1={
holder=161939 #Ranoul de Thorotte
}
1245.4.1={
holder=161985 #Guy de Traînel
}
1245.12.1={
holder=161943 #Guy de Mello
}
1247.2.2={
holder=161944 #Jean d'Aix
}
1252.8.10={
holder=71825 #Jacques Pantaléon
}
1255.1.1={
holder=161945 #Robert de Médidan
}
1271.9.7={
holder=161946 #Ulrich de Sarvay
}
1275.1.1={
holder=161949 #Gérard de Grandson
}
1278.1.1={
holder=161950 #Henri de Grandson
}
1286.1.1={
holder=161951 #Jacques de Ruvigny
}
1296.1.1={
holder=161952 #Jean de Richericourt
}
1303.1.1={
holder=161953 #Thomas de Blâmont
}
1305.1.1={
holder=161954 #Nicolas de Neuville
}
1312.1.1={
holder=161955 #Henri d'Apremont
}But for it to become a Prince-Bishopric the holders must have the b_verdun.
Code:
984.1.1={
liege="c_verdun"
holder=161543 #Adalbero Wigeriche
}
984.4.1={
holder=161910 #Adalbero Wigeriche
}
1039.1.1={
holder=161961 #Richard de Grandpré
}
1107.1.1={
holder=161964 #Richard de Grandpré
}
1131.1.1={
holder=161912 #Albéron de Chiny
}
1156.1.1={
holder=161920 #Albert de Marcey
}
1162.4.14={
holder=161922 #Richard de Namur
}
1171.1.1={
holder=161913 #Arnoul de Chiny
}
1181.1.1={
holder=161926 #Heinrich von Metz/von Bliescastel
}
1186.1.1={
holder=161930 #Albert de Hierges
}
1208.7.25={
holder=161931 #Robert de Grandpré
}
1216.8.25={
holder=31554 #Jean d'Apremont
}
1224.1.1={
holder=161939 #Ranoul de Thorotte
}
1245.4.1={
holder=161985 #Guy de Traînel
}
1245.12.1={
holder=161943 #Guy de Mello
}
1247.2.2={
holder=161944 #Jean d'Aix
}
1252.8.10={
holder=71825 #Jacques Pantaléon
}
1255.1.1={
holder=161945 #Robert de Médidan
}
1271.9.7={
holder=161946 #Ulrich de Sarvay
}
1275.1.1={
holder=161949 #Gérard de Grandson
}
1278.1.1={
holder=161950 #Henri de Grandson
}
1286.1.1={
holder=161951 #Jacques de Ruvigny
}
1296.1.1={
holder=161952 #Jean de Richericourt
}
1303.1.1={
holder=161953 #Thomas de Blâmont
}
1305.1.1={
holder=161954 #Nicolas de Neuville
}
1312.1.1={
holder=161955 #Henri d'Apremont
}Also as a bonus here is a few more bishops of Laon.
b_laon
Code:
977.1.1=
{
liege="c_vermandois"
}
977.1.1=
{
holder=161541
}
1031.1.1={
holder=0
}
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]
1113.1.1={
holder=161982 #Barthelemy de Grandson
}
1286.1.1={
holder=161938 #Robert de Thourotte
}
[/COLOR]3. New Characters
I will present the new characters in sections of dynasties rather than succession order. The c. 50 new characters is all the holders of Verdun + missing relatives (I've chosen to add up to grandfather generation if spouse already exist just to bind up some singles ladies in game). All birth and death dates is aimed to be as historically correct as possible, but if no sources about those dates I've just made something up which makes sense in game in relation to other characters.
Wigeriche
Two missing characters; count Friedrich of Verdun and his great uncle Adalbero of Verdun. Not much to tell about them more than that they're missing. I suggest that you change "Adelbero" to "Adalbero" to id 161541, it's probably a typo error.
New Characters
Code:
161910 = {
name="Adalbero" #Bishop of Verdun
dynasty=22007
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=11008 #Friedrich Wigeriche
mother=11009 #Beatrice Capet
966.1.1 = {
birth="966.1.1"
}
1005.12.14 = {
death="1005.12.14"
}
}
161911 = {
name="Friedrich" #Count of Verdun
dynasty=22007
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=144992 #Gottfried Wigeriche
mother=1411 #Matilda Billung
965.1.1 = {
birth="965.1.1"
}
1022.1.6 = {
death="1022.1.6"
}
}Suggested changes to the dynasty while we're at it
Code:
161541= {
name="Ad[COLOR="#FFFF00"]a[/COLOR]lbero"
dynasty=22007
religion="catholic"
culture="german"
father=161540
952.1.1 = {
birth="952.1.1"
}
1031.1.1 = {
death="1031.1.1"
}
}De Chiny
When I added these two prince-bishops I looked up their founder (always do) and found that the first Louis de Chiny was the son of Eudes Karling (6410). I build on that and added the ancestors and brother to Otton de Chiny (33207). I also suggest that you change Otton's name to Eudes since he's frankish and because his ancestor, Eudes Karling, is called Eudes not Otton (both is a variation of each other). By adding Albert, Otton's oldest son, I landed the single lady Agnes Scarponnois (34307) as well.
Code:
161912 = {
name="Adalbéron" #Prince-Bishop of Verdun 1131-1156
dynasty=7281 #de Chiny
religion="catholic"
culture="frankish"
father=161918
mother=161976
1089.1.1 = {
birth="1089.1.1"
}
1158.1.1 = {
death="1158.1.1"
}
}
161913 = {
name="Arnoul" #Prince-Bishop of Verdun 1171- 14 August 1181
dynasty=7281 #de Chiny
religion="catholic"
culture="frankish"
father=161914 #Albert de Chiny
mother=34307 #Agnes of Bar
1140.1.1 = {
birth="1140.1.1"
}
1181.8.14 = {
death ="1181.8.14"
}
}
161914 = {
name="Albert"
dynasty=7281 #Chiny
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=33207 #Otton de Chiny
mother=33206 #Adelaide de Namur
1096.1.1 = {
birth="1096.1.1"
}
1138.1.1 = {
add_spouse=34307 #Agnes de Bar
}
1162.1.1 = {
death="1162.1.1"
}
}
161915 = {
name="Alix"
female=yes
dynasty=7281 #Chiny
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161914 #Albert de Chiny
mother=34307 #Agnes de Bar
1143.1.1 = {
birth="1143.1.1"
}
1189.8.9 = {
death="1189.8.9"
}
}
161916 = {
name="Louis"
dynasty=7281 #Chiny
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=6410 #Eudes Karling
984.1.1 = {
birth="984.1.1"
}
1006.1.1 = {
add_spouse=161974
}
1025.1.1 = {
death ="1025.1.1"
}
}
161917 = {
name="Louis"
dynasty=7281 #Chiny
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161916 #Louis I
mother=161974 #Adelais
1010.1.1 = {
birth="1010.1.1"
}
1025.1.1 = {
add_spouse=161975 #Sophie
}
1065.1.1 = {
death="1065.1.1"
}
}
161918 = {
name="Arnoul"
dynasty=7281 #Chiny
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161917
mother=161975
1040.1.1 = {
birth="1040.1.1"
}
1066.1.1 = {
add_spouse=161973 #Adela de Ramerupt
}
1088.1.1 = {
add_spouse=161976 #Agnes
}
1106.4.16 = {
death="1106.4.16"
}
}
161919 = {
name="Ida"
female=yes
dynasty=7281 #Chiny
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161914 #Albert de Chiny
mother=34307 #Agnes de Bar
1144.1.1 = {
birth="1144.1.1"
}
1198.1.1 = {
death="1198.1.1"
}
}
161973 = {
name="Adela"
female=yes
dynasty=8755 #de Ramerupt
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=32294
1050.1.1 = {
birth="1050.1.1"
}
1069.1.1 = {
death="1069.1.1"
}
}
161974 = {
name="Adelais" #Wife of Louis I de Chiny
female=yes
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
990.1.1 = {
birth="990.1.1"
}
1040.1.1 = {
death="1040.1.1"
}
}
161975 = {
name="Sophie" #Wife of Louis II de Chiny
female=yes
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
1013.1.1 = {
birth="1013.1.1"
}
1063.1.1 = {
death="1063.1.1"
}
}
161976 = {
name="Agnes" #Wife of Arnoul I de Chiny
female=yes
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
1066.1.1 = {
birth="1066.1.1"
}
1106.4.16 = {
employer=33205 #Bishop of Liege
}
1114.1.1 = {
death="1114.1.1"
}
}Required changes to existing characters!
Code:
33207 = {
name="[COLOR="#FFFF00"]Eudes[/COLOR]"
dynasty=7281
religion="catholic"
culture="frankish"
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]father=161918 #Arnoul de Chiny
mother=161973 #Adela Ramerupt
1068.1.1 = {
birth="1068.1.1"
}[/COLOR]
1091.1.1 = {
add_spouse=33206
}
1131.1.1 = {
death="1131.1.1"
}
}De Namur
Two new characters: son and grandson of Henri de Namur (161537).
Code:
161921 = {
name="Godefroy"
dynasty=302 #de Namur
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161537 #Henri de Namur
1073.1.1 = {
birth="1073.1.1"
}
1118.1.1 = {
add_spouse=161966 #Alix de Grandpré
}
1124.1.1 = {
death="1124.1.1"
}
}
161922 = {
name="Richard" #Prince-Bishop of Verdun 1162-1171
dynasty=302 #de Namur
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161921 #Godefroy de Namur
mother=161966 #Alix de Grandpré
1119.1.1 = {
birth="1119.1.1"
}
1171.1.1 = {
death="1171.1.1"
}
}Von Metz
Next dynasty is a branch of the dynasty von Metz. There is two options here: add an new dynasty [von Bliescastel] or you just keep the old dynasty [von Metz] (which I've decided to show you here). Folmar married his second cousin Clementia von Metz (31547).
Code:
161923 = {
name="Gottfried" #von Bliescastel
dynasty=100128 #von Metz
culture="german"
religion="catholic"
father=20249 #Folmar von Metz
mother=4249 #Spanhilda
1046.1.1 = {
birth="1046.1.1"
}
1077.1.1 = {
add_spouse=161981 #Mathilde von Luxemburg
}
1098.1.1 = {
death="1098.1.1"
}
}
161924 = {
name="Gottfried" #von Bliescastel
dynasty=100128 #von Metz
culture="german"
religion="catholic"
father=161923
mother=161981
1078.1.1 = {
birth="1078.1.1"
}
1127.1.1 = {
death="1127.1.1"
}
}
161925 = {
name="Folmar" #von Bliescastel
dynasty=100128 #von Metz
culture="german"
religion="catholic"
father=161924
1115.1.1 = {
birth="1115.1.1"
}
1138.1.1 = {
add_spouse=31547 #Clementia von Metz
}
1179.1.1 = {
death="1179.1.1"
}
}
161926 = {
name="Heinrich" #Prince-Bishop of Verdun 1181-1186
dynasty=100128 #von Metz
culture="german"
religion="catholic"
father=161925 #Folmar von Bliescastel
mother=31547 #Clementia von Metz
1140.1.1 = {
birth="1140.1.1"
}
1186.1.1 = {
add_trait="celibate"
employer=213148
}
1191.8.5 = {
employer=206853
}
1196.1.1 = {
death="1196.1.1"
}
}
161981 = {
name="Mathilde"
female=yes
dynasty=420 #von Luxemburg
culture="german"
religion="catholic"
father=106650
1065.1.1 = {
birth="1065.1.1"
}
1105.1.1 = {
death="1105.1.1"
}
}De Hiergis and De Rethel
Héribrand de Hiergis was an overlord/seigneur in France. He married Hodierne de Rethel and got Manassès de Hiegis which was then cousin of Melisande of Jerusalem which send after him in 1140 to be Constable of Jerusalem. Since Constable doesn't even exist as a title in the game he should be marshal. To achieve this I've given him a 9 base in martial skill and given him the trait brilliant strategist. He was later exiled and married Alix de Chiny, the daughter of Albert de Chiny I mentioned before, in 1160. He later died of illness as a monk in an abbey not too far from Liege. After Héribrands death, in 1114, Hodierne married Roger d'Hauteville (30877) prince/duke of Antioch the same year.
Code:
161927 = {
name="Héribrand"
dynasty=1029030 #de Hiergis
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
1060.1.1 = {
birth="1060.1.1"
}
1100.1.1 = {
add_spouse=161928 #Hodierne de Rethel
}
1114.1.1 = {
death="1114.1.1"
}
}
161928 = {
name="Hodierne"
female=yes
dynasty=20035 #de Rethel
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=90082 #Hugues de Rethel
mother=90077 #Melisande de Montlhéry
1077.1.1 = {
birth="1077.1.1"
}
1118.1.1 = {
death="1118.1.1"
}
}
161929 = {
name="Manassès"
dynasty=1029030 #de Hiergis
martial=9
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
add_trait="brilliant_strategist"
father=161927 #Héribrand de Hiergis
mother=161928 #Hodierne de Rethel
1110.1.1 = {
birth="1110.1.1"
}
1140.1.1 = {
employer=223525 #King Folques of Jerusalem
add_trait="crusader"
}
1143.11.13 = {
employer=231067 #King of Jerusalem
}
1152.1.1 = {
employer=33211 #Exiled to Belgium/Liege
}
1160.1.1 = {
add_spouse=161915 #Alix de Chiny
}
1164.10.6 = {
employer=33212 #Monk in Belgium/Liege
add_trait="celibate"
}
1176.1.1 = {
add_trait="ill"
}
1176.1.8 = {
death ="1176.1.8"
}
}
161930 = {
name="Albert" #Prince-Bishop of Verdun 1186-1208.7.25
dynasty=1029030 #de Hiergis
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161929
mother=161915
1162.1.1 = {
birth="1162.1.1"
}
1208.7.25 = {
death ="1208.7.25"
}
}
Code:
30877 = {
name="Roger"
dynasty=678
religion="catholic"
culture="norman"
father=11361
mother=30873
1087.1.1 = {
birth="1087.1.1"
}
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]1114.1.1 = {
add_spouse=161928 #Hodierne de Rethel
}[/COLOR]
1119.6.27 = {
death="1119.6.27"
}
}De Grandpré
De Grandpré was a frankish dynasty. One count of Verdun was in this dynasty as well as one prince-bishop. I added the spouse of Henri and made them marry right before their son, Prince-Bishop Robert, was born. I want to report a typo error on your behalf as well, 161250 is named Liutgard not Luitgard.
Code:
161960 = {
name="Hildrad"
dynasty=5089 #de Grandpré
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
990.1.1 = {
birth="990.1.1"
}
1010.1.1 = {
add_spouse=161978 #Hersende
}
1040.12.11 = {
death="1040.12.11"
}
}
161961 = {
name="Richard" #Bishop of Verdun
dynasty=5089 #de Grandpré
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161960
mother=161978
1015.1.1 = {
birth="1015.1.1"
}
1046.11.7 = {
death="1046.11.7"
}
}
161962 = {
name="Herman"
dynasty=5089 #de Grandpré
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161960
mother=161978
1014.1.1 = {
birth="1014.1.1"
}
1031.1.1 = {
add_spouse=161977 #Judith
}
1066.1.1 = {
death="1066.1.1"
}
}
161963 = {
name="Henri"
dynasty=5089 #de Grandpré
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161962
mother=161977
1047.1.1 = {
birth="1047.1.1"
}
1097.1.1 = {
death="1097.1.1"
}
}
161964 = {
name="Richard" #Bishop of Verdun
dynasty=5089 #de Grandpré
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161962
mother=161977
1048.1.1 = {
birth="1048.1.1"
}
1114.1.1 = {
death="1114.1.1"
}
}
161965 = {
name="Henri" #Count of Verdun
dynasty=5089 #de Grandpré
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161963
1076.1.1 = {
birth="1076.1.1"
}
1099.1.1 = {
add_spouse=161968 #Ermentrude de Grandson
}
1135.1.1 = {
death="1135.1.1"
}
}
161966 = {
name="Alix"
female=yes
dynasty=5089 #de Grandpré
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161965
mother=161968
1100.1.1 = {
birth="1100.1.1"
}
1150.1.1 = {
death="1150.1.1"
}
}
161931 = {
name="Robert" #Prince-Bishop of Verdun
dynasty=5089 #de Grandpré
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161958
mother=161959
1139.1.1 = {
birth="1139.1.1"
}
1216.8.25 = {
death="1216.8.25"
}
}
161958 = {
name="Henri"
dynasty=5089
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161965
mother=161968
1105.1.1 = {
birth="1105.1.1"
}
1130.1.1 = {
add_spouse=161959
}
1189.1.1 = {
death="1189.1.1"
}
}
161959 = {
name="Liutgard"
female=yes
dynasty=420 #von Luxemburg
culture="german"
religion="catholic"
father=500001 #Wilhelm von Luxemburg
mother=161250 #Liutgard von Nordheim
1114.1.1 = {
birth="1114.1.1"
}
1164.1.1 = {
death="1164.1.1"
}
}
161977 = {
name="Judith" #Wife of Herman de Grandpré
female=yes
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
1015.1.1 = {
birth="1015.1.1"
}
1065.1.1 = {
death="1065.1.1"
}
}
161978 = {
name="Hersende" #Wife of Hildrad de Grandpré
female=yes
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
991.1.1 = {
birth="991.1.1"
}
1041.1.1 = {
death="1041.1.1"
}
}De Dampierre
Three characters. Guillaume is the new founder and, along with the already existing son, he is given two daughters, Elisabeth and Odette, who gave birth to prince-bishops of Verdun. A little change could be done with Guy (7488) as he could be both born later and should be the son of new Guillaume.
Code:
161932 = {
name="Guillaume"
dynasty=92 #De Dampierre
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
1100.1.1 = {
birth="1100.1.1"
}
1161.1.1 = {
death="1161.1.1"
}
}
161933 = {
name="Elisabeth"
female=yes
dynasty=92 #De Dampierre
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161932
1155.1.1 = {
birth="1155.1.1"
}
1218.1.1 = {
death="1218.1.1"
}
}
161934 = {
name="Odette"
female=yes
dynasty=92 #De Dampierre
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161932
1159.1.1 = {
birth="1159.1.1"
}
1212.1.1 = {
death="1212.1.1"
}
}
Code:
7488 = {
name="Guy"
dynasty=92
religion="catholic"
culture="frankish"
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]father=161932 #Guillaume de Dampierre
1145.1.1 = {
birth="1145.1.1"[/COLOR]
}
1196.1.1 = {
add_spouse=205652
}
1216.1.18 = {
death="1216.1.18"
}
}De La Tourette
Frankish dynasty who got a lot of clerics in it. Jean married Alix de Dreux and had Jean II who married Odette de Dampierre and they got Jean III, Prince-Bishop Ranoul of Verdun, Bishop Robert of Langres and a daughter Helvide/Ermengarde/Alix who gave birth to Prince-Bishop D'Aix. Jean got Bishop Robert of Laon and Archbishop Raolf of Lyon. Since it's a frankish family, Raolf should be renamed to Raoul and change culture from Occitan to Frankish. Also "de la Tourette" is the original name of the dynasty, but I think "de Thourotte" would be better since I only found sources on that name.
Code:
161935 = {
name="Jean"
dynasty=1027023
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161940
mother=204986
1172.1.1 = {
birth="1172.1.1"
}
1189.1.1 = {
add_spouse=161934 #Odette De Dampierre
}
1236.1.1 = {
death="1236.1.1"
}
}
161936 = {
name="Jean"
dynasty=1027023
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161935
mother=161934
1190.1.1 = {
birth="1190.1.1"
}
1263.1.1 = {
death="1263.1.1"
}
}
161937 = {
name="Helvide" #or Ermengarde or Alix, Sister of Prince-Bishop Ranoul of Verdun
female=yes
dynasty=1027023
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161935
mother=161934
1194.1.1 = {
birth="1194.1.1"
}
1244.1.1 = {
death="1244.1.1"
}
}
161938 = {
name="Robert" #Bishop of Laon
dynasty=1027023
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161936 #Jean II
#mother=
1236.1.1 = {
birth="1236.1.1"
}
1297.1.1 = {
death="1297.1.1"
}
}
161939 = {
name="Ranoul" #Bishop of Verdun
dynasty=1027023
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161935 #Jean I
mother=161934
1191.1.1 = {
birth="1191.1.1"
}
1245.4.1 = {
death="1245.4.1"
}
}
161940 = {
name="Jean"
dynasty=1027023
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
1100.1.1 = {
birth="1100.1.1"
}
1170.1.1 = {
add_spouse=204986 #Alix de Dreux
}
1177.1.1 = {
death="1177.1.1"
}
}
Code:
138453 = {
name=[COLOR="#FFFF00"]"Raoul"[/COLOR] #Bishop Raoul II de la Tourette of Lyon/StJeanBaptiste
dynasty=1027023
religion="catholic"
culture=[COLOR="#FFFF00"]"frankish"
father=161936[/COLOR]
1238.1.1 = {
birth="1238.1.1"
}
1288.4.7 = {
death="1288.4.7"
}
}
33219 = {
name="Robert"
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]dynasty=1027023[/COLOR]
religion="catholic"
culture="frankish"
add_trait="martial_cleric"
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]father=161935
mother=161934
1192.1.1 = {
birth="1192.1.1"
}[/COLOR]
1246.10.26 = {
death="1246.10.26"
}
}De Mello and de Traînel
Prince-Bishop Guy of Verdun and his Aunt who married Garnier de Traînel and got the previous Prince-Bishop Guy who died somewhere around 1245.
Code:
161943 = {
name="Guy" #Bishop of Verdun
dynasty=5057 #de Mello
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161713
1203.1.1 = {
birth="1203.1.1"
}
1270.9.19 = {
death="1270.9.19"
}
}
161983 = {
name="Agnes"
female=yes
dynasty=5057 #de Mello
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161712
1175.1.1 = {
birth="1175.1.1"
}
1235.1.1 = {
death="1235.1.1"
}
}
161984 = {
name="Garnier"
dynasty=1029041 #de Traînel
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
1169.1.1 = {
birth="1169.1.1"
}
1198.1.1 = {
add_spouse=161983
}
1225.1.1 = {
death="1225.1.1"
}
}
161985 = {
name="Guy"
dynasty=1029041 #de Traînel
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161984
mother=161983
1200.1.1 = {
birth="1200.1.1"
}
1245.12.1 = {
death="1245.12.1"
}
}De Grandson
The birthdate of Agnes von Neuenburg need to be moved forward twenty years or she'd be at least 50 when she got her children. All the "employer=" is for the dynasty to stay in Genevé and Neuchatel.
Code:
161967 = {
name="Conan"
dynasty=1029031 #de Grandson
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
1052.1.1 = {
birth="1052.1.1"
}
1078.1.1 = {
add_spouse=161972 #Aelis de Ramerupt
}
1110.1.1 = {
death="1110.1.1"
}
}
161968 = {
name="Ermentrude"
female=yes
dynasty=1029031 #de Grandson
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161967
mother=161972
1081.1.1 = {
birth="1081.1.1"
}
1140.1.1 = {
death="1140.1.1"
}
}
161969 = {
name="Ebles"
dynasty=1029031 #de Grandson
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161967
mother=161972
1079.1.1 = {
birth="1079.1.1"
}
1100.1.1 = {
add_spouse=161979 #Adelaide
}
1133.5.15 = {
death="1133.5.15"
}
}
161982 = {
name="Barthelemy" #Bishop of Laon
dynasty=1029031 #de Grandson
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161967
mother=161972
1080.1.1 = {
birth="1080.1.1"
}
1158.1.1 = {
death="1158.1.1"
}
}
161970 = {
name="Barthelemy"
dynasty=1029031 #de Grandson
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161969
mother=161979
1115.1.1 = {
birth="1115.1.1"
}
1158.1.1 = {
death="1158.1.1"
}
}
161971 = {
name="Ebles"
dynasty=1029031 #de Grandson
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161970
1146.1.1 = {
birth="1146.1.1"
}
1170.1.1 = {
add_spouse=161980 #Jordane
}
1190.1.1 = {
death="1190.1.1"
}
}
161972 = {
name="Aelis"
female=yes
dynasty=8755 #de Ramerupt
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=32294
1061.1.1 = {
birth="1061.1.1"
}
1111.1.1 = {
death="1111.1.1"
}
}
161947 = {
name="Ebles"
dynasty=1029031 #de Grandson
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161971
mother=161980
1175.1.1 = {
birth="1175.1.1"
}
1196.7.25 = {
employer=212742
}
1200.1.1 = {
add_spouse=212743 #Beatrice de Genéve
}
1225.5.10 = {
employer=212745
}
1235.1.26 = {
death="1235.1.26"
}
}
161948 = {
name="Pierre"
dynasty=1029031 #de Grandson
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161947
mother=212743 #Beatrice de Genéve
1205.1.1 = {
birth="1205.1.1"
employer=212742
}
1236.1.1 = {
add_spouse=32778 #Agnes von Neuenburg
employer=32769
}
1258.1.1 = {
death="1258.1.1"
}
}
161949 = {
name="Gérard" #
dynasty=1029031 #de Grandson
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161948 #Pierre
mother=32778 #Agnes von Neuenburg
1249.1.1 = {
birth="1249.1.1"
}
1278.1.1 = {
death="1278.1.1"
}
}
161950 = {
name="Henri" #
dynasty=1029031 #de Grandson
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161948 #Pierre
mother=32778 #Agnes von Neuenburg
1251.1.1 = {
birth="1251.1.1"
}
1286.1.1 = {
death="1286.1.1"
}
}
161979 = {
name="Adelaide" #Wife of Ebles de Grandson
female=yes
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
1082.1.1 = {
birth="1082.1.1"
}
1132.1.1 = {
death="1132.1.1"
}
}
161980 = {
name="Jordane" #Wife of Ebles de Grandson
female=yes
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
1150.1.1 = {
birth="1150.1.1"
}
1200.1.1 = {
death="1200.1.1"
}
}
Code:
32778 = {
name="Agnes"
female=yes
dynasty=87
religion="catholic"
culture="german"
father=32768
mother=33313
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]1220.1.1[/COLOR] = {
birth="[COLOR="#FFFF00"]1220.1.1[/COLOR]"
}
1263.8.31 = {
death="1263.8.31"
}
}d'Apremont
Two missing ancestors to Prince-Bishop Jean of Metz who should also be the Prince-Bishop of Verdun. These two marries women I've reported before in this post. Prince-Bishop Jean (31554) should have the new parents, Geoffroy and Elisabeth.
Code:
161956 = {
name="Gobert"
dynasty=7224 #d'Apremont
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
1130.1.1 = {
birth="1130.1.1"
}
1150.1.1 = {
add_spouse=161919 #Ida de Chiny
}
1190.11.26 = {
death ="1190.11.26"
}
}
161957 = {
name="Geoffroy"
dynasty=7224 #d'Apremont
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
father=161956
mother=161919
1165.1.1 = {
birth="1165.1.1"
}
1180.1.1 = {
add_spouse=161933 #Elisabeth de Dampierre
}
1222.6.20 = {
death="1222.6.20"
}
}
Code:
31554 = {
name="Jean" #bishop of Metz 1224-1238 and Verdun 1217-1224
dynasty=7224
religion="catholic"
culture="frankish"
add_trait="martial_cleric"
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]father=161957 #Geoffroy d'Apremont
mother=161933 #Elisabeth de Dampierre[/COLOR]
1185.1.2 = {
birth="1185.1.2"
}
1238.12.10 = {
death="1238.12.10"
}
}Other single dynasties
These characters might as well be lowborns since they're on their own until someone research their dynasty trees and adds relatives somewhat important to the CK2 world. Some have connection to the dynasties above this point, but there is a gap in sources between the folks.
Code:
161920 = {
name="Albert" #Prince-Bishop of Verdun 1156- 14 April 1162
dynasty=1029033 #de Marcey
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
1110.1.1 = {
birth="1110.1.1"
}
1162.4.14 = {
death="1162.4.14"
}
}
161944 = {
name="Jean"
dynasty=1029034 #d'Aix
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
mother=161937 #Helvide de Thourotte
1200.1.1 = {
birth="1200.1.1"
}
1252.8.10 = {
death="1252.8.10"
}
}
161945 = {
name="Robert"
dynasty=1029035 #de Médidan
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
1205.1.1 = {
birth="1205.1.1"
}
1271.9.7 = {
death="1271.9.7"
}
}
161946 = {
name="Ulrich"
dynasty=1029036 #de Sarvay
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
1218.1.1 = {
birth="1218.1.1"
}
1273.1.1 = {
death="1273.1.1"
}
}
161951 = {
name="Jacques" #
dynasty=1029037 #de Ruvigny
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
1229.1.1 = {
birth="1229.1.1"
}
1296.1.1 = {
death="1296.1.1"
}
}
161952 = {
name="Jean" #Somehow related to d'Apremont
dynasty=1029038 #de Richercourt
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
1250.1.1 = {
birth="1250.1.1"
}
1303.1.1 = {
death="1303.1.1"
}
}
161953 = {
name="Thomas" #
dynasty=1029039 #de Blâmont
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
1255.1.1 = {
birth="1255.1.1"
}
1305.1.1 = {
death="1305.1.1"
}
}
161954 = {
name="Nicolas" #
dynasty=1029040 #de Neuville
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
1240.1.1 = {
birth="1240.1.1"
}
1312.1.1 = {
death="1312.1.1"
}
}
161955 = {
name="Henri" #Somehow related to d'Apremont
culture="frankish"
religion="catholic"
1283.1.1 = {
birth="1283.1.1"
}
1349.1.5 = {
death="1349.1.5"
}
}New Dynasties to add
Code:
1029029 = {
name="von Bliescastel" #If no use of von Metz
culture = german
}
1029030 = {
name="de Hiergis"
culture = frankish
}
1029031 = {
name="de Grandson"
culture = frankish
}
1029033 = {
name="de Marcey"
culture = frankish
}
1029034 = {
name="d'Aix"
culture = frankish
}
1029035 = {
name="de Médidan"
culture = frankish
}
1029036 = {
name="de Sarvay"
culture = frankish
}
1029037 = {
name="de Ruvigny"
culture = frankish
}
1029038 = {
name="de Richercourt"
culture = frankish
}
1029039 = {
name="de Blâmont"
culture = frankish
}
1029040 = {
name="de Neuville"
culture = frankish
}
1029041 = {
name="de Traînel"
culture = frankish
}Changes to existing dynasties!
Code:
1027023 = {
name="[COLOR="#FFFF00"]de Thourotte[/color]"
culture = [COLOR="#FFFF00"]frankish[/color]
}De Grandson, De Traînel and De Hiergis is three vital dynasties to add, the rest is a matter of taste since they're single member dynasties for now.
What if we (PI) don't want to add a new county?
I would like you to at least change the b_verdun to a bishopric and keep the b_verdun list as well as all legit (more than one dynasty member) characters for immersion. We're very grateful for any changes made to achieve historicity in this region.
Sources
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN (UPPER) NOBILITY.htm#_Toc260899887 - Sources on counts of Verdun
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAR.htm#_Toc161905004 - Sources on Counts of Bar.
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/Trier.htm#_Toc321762797 - Look at this for the bishops/prince-bishops of Verdun origin and similar. Correct dates.
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDY Kingdom.htm#EblesIVGrandsondiedafter1235 - De Grandson Family
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN (UPPER) NOBILITY.htm#OttoChinyB - De Chiny from Eudes Karling
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMBURG.htm#GobertVAspremontdied1190B - d'Apremont family
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY.htm#HeribrandHiergesdied1114 - De Hiergis Family
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN FRANCE.htm#JeanIIThourottedied1235B - De la Tourette/De Thourotte Family
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOT...ILITY.htm#GodefroiIIIBliesgaudied1098orafterB - Bliescastel/von Metz Family additions
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDIAN NOBILITY.htm#GuyMelloVerdunAuxerre - De Mello Family
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN (UPPER) NOBILITY.htm#HenriIGrandprediedbefore1151B - De Grandpré Family
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY.htm#GuillaumeIDampierrediedbefore1161B - De Dampierre Additions
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN (UPPER) NOBILITY.htm#Godefroidied995B - Friedrich Wigeriche
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIA.htm#ThierryIdied1027B - Bishop Adalbero Wigeriche of Metz
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN (LOWER) NOBILITY.htm#HenriINamurDurbuydied1088 - Source on son and grandson of Henri de Namur (161537)
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY.htm#AdelaideRoucyMCononFalconSarrazGrandson - Aelis de Ramerupt, wife of Conan.
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LUXEMBOURG.htm#Conraddied1086B - Mathilde von Luxemburg's father and explaination of the birth date.
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY.htm#GuyTrainelVerdundied1245 - De Traînel
Hope this helps a bit to decide to add this.
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