Countries, countries, countries...(breakaway states, indep. colonies, correct names)

unmerged(37697) · Mar 5, 2009

Cidal said:
Wasn't there some mod that added dozens of new countries in HoI2?

Other than the historical ones I'd like to see some political ones like Fascist Britain or Communist France.

Ah, thank you, you reminded me of something I wanted to post but had forgotten for a few hours.

In HoI2, states which switched tag when couped were, AFAIK, hardcoded. These included USSR > Russia, France > Vichy France and Nazi Germany > East/West Germany. My wish is that this be softcoded in HoI3, so as we may edit it in .txt files. This shouldn't be too difficult to add, and it would of course be an invaluable tool for modders.

With an EU3 system of almost infinite tags (and thus flags as well), we can look forward to plenty of states popping up as a result of coups, &c.

unmerged(45464) · Mar 5, 2009

Of course you need Fiji, Micronesia etc. ^^ Also it would be nice to be able to liberate Bavaria and make Germany in to three states instead of two after the war. Wales and Northern Ireland (I don't think they are in vanilla HoI2). Maybe Italy should be able to be split up into the pieces it had before the unification.

unmerged(52507) · Mar 5, 2009

Johan has said he isn't keen on Southern Rhodesia, which was a semi-dominion in the timeframe. I can't see him including some of these obscure hypotheticals.

unmerged(37697) · Mar 5, 2009

Jemisi said:
Johan has said he isn't keen on Southern Rhodesia, which was a semi-dominion in the timeframe. I can't see him including some of these obscure hypotheticals.

Can you find the quote for that?

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I do believe you, it's just that I haven't seen him say it.

unmerged(132658) · Mar 5, 2009

mandead said:
With an EU3 system of almost infinite tags (and thus flags as well), we can look forward to plenty of states popping up as a result of coups, &c.

It will be great in HoI3 because of the huge number of provinces.

unmerged(123225) · Mar 5, 2009

mandead said:
Ah, thank you, you reminded me of something I wanted to post but had forgotten for a few hours.

In HoI2, states which switched tag when couped were, AFAIK, hardcoded. These included USSR > Russia, France > Vichy France and Nazi Germany > East/West Germany. My wish is that this be softcoded in HoI3, so as we may edit it in .txt files. This shouldn't be too difficult to add, and it would of course be an invaluable tool for modders.

With an EU3 system of almost infinite tags (and thus flags as well), we can look forward to plenty of states popping up as a result of coups, &c.

I support this idea and I think it is likely to be implemented. They did say that when Spanish Civil War kicks in you'll be able to choose either the Republicans or Nationalists. If that's the case I'm guessing that tag changes will be simpler and modable.

Alexander Seil · Mar 5, 2009

Jemisi said:
Johan has said he isn't keen on Southern Rhodesia, which was a semi-dominion in the timeframe. I can't see him including some of these obscure hypotheticals.

Rhodesia was a release-able country in HoI2. Many colonies were aggregated in this way, mostly in Africa.

Zuckergußgebäck · Mar 5, 2009

As long as the tags are softcoded as in EUIII, giving us thousands of options for new countries, I will be happy.

unmerged(37697) · Mar 5, 2009

Zuckergußgebäck said:
As long as the tags are softcoded as in EUIII, giving us thousands of options for new countries, I will be happy.

Well, quite. Should make work on your 1914 transition a little easier.

midget_roxx · Mar 5, 2009

Western Australia as a releasable country.

I'm sorry that would never happen and besides it would be like having 1 city called Perth and the rest is sand with maybe a few mines scattered around the place

unmerged(112615) · Mar 5, 2009

midget_roxx said:
Western Australia as a releasable country. I'm sorry that would never happen and besides it would be like having 1 city called Perth and the rest is sand with maybe a few mines scattered around the place

Breakaway states are more designed to weaken the country they are secceeding from then actually become another strong and very playable nation. It might have like 10 IC. Not very strong but still annoying to Australia.
Gives the game that non-historical flavor. It's pretty good in HOI2 but could be better. Being able to change history is the only reason why I love it so much.

Never try to play completely historical. Always trying to make it end up the other way around than it began. Germany wins, etc.

States like Djibouti and Belize are things that should just be in here. Less realistic states would be a nice and fun addition but not necessary. Either way, when it comes out I'll try to mod in a few new breakaway states. Modding seems to be a lot easier in the game so it might work out.

unmerged(124387) · Mar 5, 2009

Kang Seung Jae said:
Er.... isn't that Government?

Well one f the things that frustrated me was that if u conquered the uk as germany you couldn',t release a puppet rival to the uk with the duke of windsor as head of state and Moseley as prime minister. so yes and no I mean it is both polical but also conquest

YossarianLives · Mar 5, 2009

Well, it's not a major change, but if it were up to me I'd change the CSA to the Second Confederacy just to give it a little more flavor.

Meadow · Mar 5, 2009

Do we know if the Victoria 'change flag based on politics' option is back in HoI3? Would make a lot of these government focused suggestions a lot more palatable.

Voss · Mar 5, 2009

Meadow said:
Do we know if the Victoria 'change flag based on politics' option is back in HoI3? Would make a lot of these government focused suggestions a lot more palatable.

That would rock ;DD

I'd also like an option of creating a satellite, even with your cores (if you choose to). I love playing Belarus f.e, and it's quite annoying to always mod a save, or create it by war.

gigzoid · Mar 5, 2009

mandead said:
I agree with USA > United States.

Seeing 'USA' as a name in games tends to annoy me, mainly 'cus I hate such abbreviations. You might as well have 'UK' instead of United Kingdom.

Quite useful to change USA to America (albeit an abbreviation), as puts it at the top of the list for minimum mouse action diplo/spy selection. As USA, need to scroll and click, which is a bit of a pain on the 100th+ time.

Xz2 · Mar 5, 2009

serisoly: Manhattan Commune. perfekt for long roleplaying vic (2?) -> hoi 3

Vanguard44 · Mar 5, 2009

North Borneo NRB - British protectorate with the same status as Sarawak. Same stats as Sarawak. Phillipines has cores on.

Graf Koks · Mar 5, 2009

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhenish_Republic - and in general more options for a breakup of Germany like Bavaria, Saxony etc

unmerged(123225) · Mar 5, 2009

Meadow said:
Do we know if the Victoria 'change flag based on politics' option is back in HoI3? Would make a lot of these government focused suggestions a lot more palatable.

It's one of my big wish list but I have my doubts too.

Countries, countries, countries...(breakaway states, indep. colonies, correct names)

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