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gamebreaking exploits like the "all citizen strategy"
Seems like a pretty weak "exploit": sure, you'll get a lot of research, that's great and all, but without the freemen you won't have manpower, and you won't be able to defend your territories, without slaves you wont be able to sustain an army to conquer, etc.
 

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Roma delenda est! GIB IMPERATOR: CARTHAGE NOW.
 

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Got 352 hours on CK2 and 646 on EU4.
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For me:

CKII: 2519 hrs.

EUIV: 6796 hrs.
 

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Oliver Stones "Alexander" 2004- I heard that the directors cut is actually the movie it should have been ?
 

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WoW "the best game ever"? So is it that Imperator has already known, gamebreaking exploits like the "all citizen strategy" before it's even released, what qualifies it for the best game ever?

It is silly to call it the best game ever (it could only ever be that if someone goes back in time and removes Final Fantasy 7 from existence), so you're correct on that point.

The "citizens only exploit" isn't really an exploit though. It's just something you can do to give you an edge on your neighbours if you want to stay small and turtle for a while at the start of the game. With all citizens you have lots of research but little money/manpower. Eventually you have to expand and lose your research bonus or get eaten by a much larger and richer empire (as small states inevitably were in this time period).
 

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It is silly to call it the best game ever (it could only ever be that if someone goes back in time and removes Final Fantasy 7 from existence), so you're correct on that point.

The "citizens only exploit" isn't really an exploit though. It's just something you can do to give you an edge on your neighbours if you want to stay small and turtle for a while at the start of the game. With all citizens you have lots of research but little money/manpower. Eventually you have to expand and lose your research bonus or get eaten by a much larger and richer empire (as small states inevitably were in this time period).

imperator is 100 times better than all final fantasies combined
 

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Quietly adding my first post to Paradox forums to show my commitment to Imperator. It's one of my favourite times in history, and maybe I'll ask some questions in the forums later to better understand Imperator. In preparation for release, I've been learning to play a bit of EU IV to get some idea of how Paradox games work.
 

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Quietly adding my first post to Paradox forums to show my commitment to Imperator. It's one of my favourite times in history, and maybe I'll ask some questions in the forums later to better understand Imperator. In preparation for release, I've been learning to play a bit of EU IV to get some idea of how Paradox games work.
Agreed, is a huge fave historic period.

Welcome to the forum, and the paradox party. I've found paradox forums to be the friendliest and most helpful, and the devs have an excellent presence.
 

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gamebreaking exploits like the "all citizen strategy"

Ahah Ahah !
All citizen strategy gives you research... yeah... you know that research is shit (in term of power) compared to EU4 and even CK2 ?
It's all nice but it doesn't make you ultra powerful. Even 20 tech ahead you can be crushed by someone with an army a bit larger than yours, which is easy to get as you have low manpower because trololo all citizens.